Burbank United 05 & 06 Girls caught violating player loan program.

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  1. xnd298

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    Same coach coaches both teams.

    They had been doing it all season.
    06 players would play up and play 2 games on the days.

    Once CSL was informed, they looked at if for 3 weeks and then turned the '05's team 3 wins to losses.

    06 players were on both 05 and 06 rosters all season long until the 05 team was disciplined.

    Coaches and players were all in on it, they knew they were cheating.

    Coach should lose license if Cal South is worth its salt.
    Not sure the players should be allowed to play CSL either.
     
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    06s playing for 05 team same day they played for their 06 team...Not sure I'd classify this as cheating, more like breaking the rules. ;)

    But really you need to take a breath and get some perceptive. The players shouldn't be punished and the coach should be suspended not lose his license.

    Now, if the 05s were playing on the 06 team then totally different matter and the coach's license should be in jeopardy.
     
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  3. timbuck

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    Both bronze teams with what looks like small rosters.
    I hate teams/clubs that don’t follow the rules, but I’d rather play against a team with at least 11 players than have to play 11v9 or win via forfeit.
     
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    Yes, can’t blame the kids. They probably wanted to play. However, the parents of those children knew. Parents and coach responsible. Definitely breaking the rules. Not as bad as Anaheim Surf incident. And, that coach is still on suspension. But not for cheating.
     
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    Yeah, great message to send to the players and coach that knew what they were doing.
    Bad message to send to the rest of the clubs out there that work the right way to form teams with enough players.
    Couldn't disagree more.
    If you can't get the players, don't form the team.
    The rest of the teams will be completely fine without you.
     
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    This has been their status since the beginning of the season, they never had enough players.
    The 05 team never had more than 10 '05 players.
    If they abandon the effort early enough, the players can find other places to play and CSL can put another team in the bracket.
    The Club and the coach put their interests ahead of CSL and the other teams in the bracket.
     
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    It's sad that the coaches allowed this and worst that the parents went along with it. You can't blame the players since they're like 11 or 12 years old. They probably just happy to play more games.
     
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    IMO the parents probably didn't have much of an option. As an example on my DD's team we don't have enough players for Sunday games. We also cannot forfeit a game because I guess there are hefty fines.

    The coach is at fault and more importantly they should allow parents to move their kids (with refunds) to other teams if at the beginning of the season the team doesn't have enough players.
     
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    Just curious. Why is this a rule?

    We have a few players who play up a year on our clubs ecnl team and also play on one of our clubs scdsl teams at their birth year. They often play 2 games a day when the schedules permit. Aside from it being a lot of soccer on their legs, why is it a problem? As far as I know, there is not rule against it.
     
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    ECNL is not a cal south league. So the 2 governing bodies don’t care if you play in multiple games in a day. It’s completely stupid and a loophole that should be closed.
     
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    Scdsl along with csl both specify you are not permitted to play on 2 separate teams in the same day only exception is a keeper can play in 2 games as long as one game is only in goal. That is their rule within their league play.
     
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    Arguing about the rule is not important. Those who are in control bypassing the rules is.
     
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    I’m really not trying to be dense. Why is it stupid for a player to play on two different teams in two different age groups for their own club? I wouldn’t want my child playing the much soccer every weekend, but not sure I understand why there should be a rule against it.
     
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    You can’t be rostered on two teams, anywhere.
     
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    Yes, I understand that it is a rule and rules should be followed or penalties enforced. I’m just trying to understand why this rule exists.
     
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    Of course you can. The example I gave above is allowed. Discovery players in ecnl is another example of where it is actually allowed for a player to be rostered on an ecnl team and at a completely different club in a different league.
     
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    Because without this rule, you’ll have kids playing 4 games a day.
     
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    True, you can be rostered, but not active. And if playing CSL or SCDSL you can’t. ECNL are guests. Look play for one team and guest if needed. Let’s not deviate from the conversation.
     
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    You can’t play in a cal south league twice in one day (unless you are a gk).
    This is Coast, scdsl and presidio and signature. (I think)
    You could place ecnl, AYSO and scdsl in the same day.
    DA won’t allow you to play for anyone else. Not sure how they enforce if you try to play in another league other than DA saying “that’s the rule.”
    I have no idea how DPL works.
     
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    Fair enough and probably true that we can’t trust coaches and parents setting appropriate limits. Going back the original post though, I really don’t have any problem with a player helping out another team in their club by playing in two different age groups on the same day. I’m just saying that a rule preventing this specific situation seems unnecessary to me.
     

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