2017-2018 D1 Women's Soccer Talk!

Discussion in 'College Recruiting' started by gkrent, Mar 2, 2017.

  1. timmyh

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    Yeah. Unfortunately I suppose you are correct.
    I guess the problem really is that, in order to play like UCLA or Stanford, you need just about all 11 to be technically sound. If you just have 4 or 5 it breaks down somewhere and you routinely turn the ball over in your own half. It is much easier said than done to put together a full team like that, and you almost certainly are going to take some lumps along the way until everyone "gets it."
    A person can wish, though.
     
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    Yes Espola. Just another example of arrogance and deplorable behavior sitting in an ivory tower. I am willing to bet 75% of the people on this board have spent more time inside this game than he has but none of know shit about the game.
     
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    IMO - I don't think it will ever really change unless you limit re-entry. Teams are constantly rotating players like hockey lines to press the entire game. So unless the team is the over the top talented like UCLA or Stanford allowing those two teams to consistently hold the ball against a relentless press, the game is always going to look a little ugly. Defense is never pretty and the re-entry rules favor tactics geared toward defense.
     
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  4. espola

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    Aren't the rules the same for both sides?
     
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    We tend to approach playing possession soccer from a negative or doubtful perspective. Yes, it helps to have 11 players and a bench that can play in this manner. But lets look at what we do have. Lets look at some positives. We can start with UCLA and Stanford. Right now they are prime examples of teams that can play this way. We have some youth clubs (not many, but growing) trying to teach this play and/or coaches sprinkled around also advocating and teaching it. There are international examples being televised daily who are kids can watch and eventually model. At times we can see it with our USWMNT (not as much as we may want yet we know they can). The idea of playing this way is discussed continually on this board which means many see it is needed to further the game. Right now we are in a good place going forward. The fact that the USMNT failed (yes not a positive) to reach the World Cup could (hopefully) bring some changes (the positive) on how players are developed.
     
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    I agree on the development point but when it comes down to College Soccer coaches “play to win the game”. This is how somewhat inexplicably, UCLA lost to Washington State and tied both Arizona and Pepperdine. Those teams gameplaned around a very transparent strategy and found a way to get a result. Coaches are coaching for their jobs and sometimes the defend and counter game is fruitful. People may not think it’s pretty but it is a viable strategy to get a result
     
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    I understand and agree that coaches need to produce to keep their jobs. The question is for long playing in this manner? Will their employers be okay with them never beating a top team? Like UCLA or Stanford? Will their employers ask why they are not playing like those two schools? Agreed there is nothing wrong with playing defensive and countering on attack, but if its the only thing a team can do, well I hope these coaches can teach more than that in regards on how to play on the field.
     
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    I do as well. But when the Stanford’s UCLAs and small few others don’t have to lift a finger to get top talent the rest will do the best with what’s leftover
     
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    And, that's where change in our structure needs to change. So, the gap between programs have been narrowed and we have no leftovers. Just dessert!:D
     
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    So is this the part where we wish everyone a good spring til next season or does MAP keep telling us how great his kid is till the new season? Just askin as a new guy
     
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  12. The Driver

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    Sounds about White

    Minus wishing everyone a good spring

    Other then that

    Sounds about Right
     
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    You are forgetting the part about your kid sucking. I have it on ignore and it was the best thing I have even done.
     
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    Shows how little that you have done.
     
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    Are you now?
     
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    You have such an inferiority complex. Do you need to rally the lench mob or can you stand on your own two feet? I can go toe to toe with you at any time and don't need to ask for help or validation. Why do you feel such a need for it? Do you drive a lifted truck or a really fancy car so that you can feel special? You clearly have some need for validation. That's where we differ. I talk smack because I can and it's entertaining. I have accomplished plenty, have great kids, an amazing wife, a good job, I travel a lot and get to come home to San Diego. $hit is going great for me. So I toot my kid's horn. So what. Does it hurt your feelings that either my kid has always been better than yours or did she pass yours along the way and now you are bitter? I have been talking about where my kid was heading since she was U10 and @NoGoal and @pulguita can verify that. Don't hate it because it is true. I make and raise great babies. Just watch what my son does...
     
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    Can you attach the link to the board you berate other people who play with your son?
     
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    Yes, at the volunteer and senior adviser level.

    It appears that your only involvement is as That Parent.
     
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    Yes that parent that recognizes a dilettante when he sees one. Continue with your tremendous amounts of time on your hands. How many College Cups or Rose Bowls have you or your kids played in? How many D1 athletes are there in your immediate family? How many D1 soccer players have you raised? Was your kid a youth national team player? Were you a D1 or professional athlete? I can read a book on something and attend a bunch of meetings too. YOUR EXPERIENCE IS NOT RELEVANT TO MY CHILD AND HER SITUATION. Please understand that I prefer not to engage you as I have a busy life and a young child and you have neither of those things...

    If you want a great baby I can hook you up with one. Your wife would like it I promise...
     
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  20. MakeAPlay

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    It's too high level for you. You wouldn't get it. I prefer to trash talk you here. Your kid doesn't play with mine. Remember she isn't on the same level. I'm sure you watched that U20 game last night. Mine will be getting another invite soon for the camp on the 28th. Although you probably didn't know that there was another one coming up. You also probably didn't know about the date they are leaving to Trinidad either.

    You don't know what you don't know...
     
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