Lambchop
GOLD
A better demographics review would be based on age. How many individuals are 18 and younger.
GIRLS DAII
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IntheknowSoccer
BRONZE
D2 is dead! Presidio members voted against it.
Kicknit22
GOLD
You say it's dead because Presidio voted against it? Do you think the DOC's will really throw in the towel? Doubt it. I believe this is only regarding the Fall league. I really don't believe this is a dead issue.
IntheknowSoccer
BRONZE
Wow, talk about a tangled web that's been weaved. Comes down this copy cat like web site complete with a fake press release run by sd clubs as a presido division.
LAG not funding or planning on participating, RSC might partially, others only some of the the age groups so these probable 6-8 team dpl divisions playing in LA, SD, & two states seem to go against the Presido charter and don't offer any real benefits.
Goal Nation is the rag that is up Surf, Albion, and Presidio's ass! The press release was a disservice to families to promote a division that was simply an idea not even close to reality .
Sigh.
Presidio is a low league.
There are these two kinda bigger kinda more important ones a little ways to the north. SCDSL an obvious no.
Coast is a yes- would bet big money on this.
IntheknowSoccer
BRONZE
I don't think the "idea" is dead, but the DPL, as we know it today, is dead. However, what's ironic is that those same DOC's who complained about ECNL are trying to create the same exclusivity.
We def do not need DA, ECNL, SCDSL, Coast, Presidio and DPL. Let the kids play in an open market and the cream will rise to the top.
Word on the street is Coast is working hard to pull it off for them. If they do, again no different then before with Presidio, it is just a division in CSL. With eligibility to showcases they already have access too.
If the Coach and Players are a fit for your player go for it! But don't go for it for any other reason then that.
Coast might pull this off, and I hope for the girls sake they don't need to drive out of state for league games, but Coast may want to tweak some of their rules:
- clubs participating being required to register their most competitive team in the age group (Section 1 of Coast's Rules)
- clubs have to reapply every year (Section 3.C)
- And all of that stuff about relegation & promotion (although I do like that they game themselves an out in that the board can essentially do whatever they want as respects to team placement).
bababooey
GOLD
I agree with your suggestion. These closed playing circuits (ECNL, DA, DPL, etc.) are useless. While there are some good teams in the SW division of ECNL at U14, there are some really poor teams. If the top ECNL teams felt that competition trumps all, then they should be playing the top Beach FC, Legends, LAGSB, LAGSD teams in their regular season games.
What is fun to watch are the DOC's and HC's trying to say one closed gaming league is better than the others. Until we get the pay to play system eradicated (which would be never) from the soccer landscape, the fight for our dollars will continue on.
As a parent of a DA2 player, I would be 100% happy if we stayed in SCDSL or played in CSL. There is absolutely no need for the DPL. The reasons given by the DOC's for the DPL in that Goal Nation article are laughable at best.
Lambchop
GOLD
DA2? So your son plays on a DA team? Your experience then is not on the girls side because the DA has not started yet, just clarifying.
bababooey
GOLD
Nope. My dd is DA2.
hydraulic42
BRONZE
I agree that there's way too much stratification and unnecessary politics in how youth soccer is "organized." Sometimes I wonder how it should all be organized if we could dump everything and start from scratch, e.g.:
- Make everyone play AYSO/rec until a certain age;
- have one main fall league for all clubs (like CSL used to be for LA/OC);
- keep at least one season soccer-free until a certain age, so kids can do other things (and work with the governing bodies of those sports to sync up the schedules).
IMHO, I think that a major flaw in the US Soccer system is that they try to control everything. Some of the top players in the world learned to love the game themselves and figured out the basics by themselves, and then eventually their country's system found them, etc. Here, it's assumed that the kids have to be drilled and drilled and molded from a young age or they'll not be good. They want creative players, but they don't want to allow the players to develop their own creativity. Someone said the other day about being able to play pickup games in the street. I mean, that's how all the best learned. Messi was discovered when he was juggling grapefruit in a market! Or lemons or something I can't remember right now. I don't think that we should be forcing these kids into practices and practices from 5 and up. Let them learn to love the game first. Let them go out and just play around with the ball, see what they can do. Experiment. Of course, this gets into the culture debate, but anyways.
The other day I was at the park, and a guy asked to use our ball. He had a little girl (no older than 5) and what looked like her brother with him. They kicked around and tried to juggle the ball for a little bit, all the while the man who originally borrowed the ball talked about how he used to be really good at juggling. Over the course of the next 20-25 minutes, I saw the two men play with the little girl, but every time she got the ball the drilled her and corrected her on her form. The passed the ball around her, and by the time they left, you could see she didn't want anything to do with the ball anymore. This of course isn't all cases, but it's just something that I saw recently and exemplifies how, even though rec practices are made fun for the kids and so on, none of it's worth it, like several have said on this forum, if the kids don't love the game.
If you really want to vomit follow Goal Nation on instagram
She really just needs to make it her sons soccer account and spare us all
Here everyone! It's a great suggestion. Now since Strikers, Pats, Blues et all are all sharing space at OC Great Park let's all make a massive club.
Bonus points it won't be hard to find a new team for next year just go on a casual stroll around the orange...
Rancho Capistrano Fields
April 24, 2017
SC Blues Families,
As you know the Fall 2016 soccer season was our last year of games being played on the weekends at Rancho Capistrano. Saddleback Church generously allowed the two clubs, SC Blues and UFC, to continue practicing and training there during the week since
January 1. They did this at no cost to the clubs whatsoever and
we deeply appreciate their support.
The fields will be closed to all soccer activities, effective May 1, 2017. The traffic accident that occurred last August, 2016 that reduced our ability to play weekend games has ultimately
led to this decision.
Both soccer clubs have independently been seeking other field venues for training and games. With the growth of soccer and competitiveness for fields being particularly challenging we have been working hard on long-term solutions for field space.
We are happy to report that we have been approved to use fields at the OC Great Park in Irvine. We will provide details on the Great Park availability as we receive it. Additionally, we can access fields at Vanguard University. We are also expecting to be able to use two other complexes nearby but we are waiting on final approval from those venues before announcing those locations.
As we receive official permits for fields we will be sharing that information with our families and coaching staff for the period beginning May 1, 2017.
Bonus points it won't be hard to find a new team for next year just go on a casual stroll around the orange...
Rancho Capistrano Fields
April 24, 2017
SC Blues Families,
As you know the Fall 2016 soccer season was our last year of games being played on the weekends at Rancho Capistrano. Saddleback Church generously allowed the two clubs, SC Blues and UFC, to continue practicing and training there during the week since
January 1. They did this at no cost to the clubs whatsoever and
we deeply appreciate their support.
The fields will be closed to all soccer activities, effective May 1, 2017. The traffic accident that occurred last August, 2016 that reduced our ability to play weekend games has ultimately
led to this decision.
Both soccer clubs have independently been seeking other field venues for training and games. With the growth of soccer and competitiveness for fields being particularly challenging we have been working hard on long-term solutions for field space.
We are happy to report that we have been approved to use fields at the OC Great Park in Irvine. We will provide details on the Great Park availability as we receive it. Additionally, we can access fields at Vanguard University. We are also expecting to be able to use two other complexes nearby but we are waiting on final approval from those venues before announcing those locations.
As we receive official permits for fields we will be sharing that information with our families and coaching staff for the period beginning May 1, 2017.
Doesn't WC also train there or are they just using the fields for try-outs?
Forgot! I wonder if we can also ask Slammers to come. I am telling you I am on to something here