ECNL vs. DA turf war has created a 'toxic environment'

I use to go over to the various Claremont campuses back when I was in college, usually chasing a friend's roommate's skirt around, and the very small close knit atmosphere was great. Not everyone likes that style of campus when they are young - bigger, louder = more fun! Claremont is a nice quiet town, something the young ones find boring.

Back in the 70's Claremont was in the middle of the LA-downwind smog zone. Are things better there now?
 
Back in the 70's Claremont was in the middle of the LA-downwind smog zone. Are things better there now?
Late 90s - Early 00s it was fine. Dont ever remember any time we had any alerts in the SGV basin. Two friends lived in Claremont and had various roommates that went to the schools. Then again I was probably paying attention more getting to where the young ladies lived, rather than how the quality of the air was. Areas in Pomona was seemed thick with a ton of trucks roaming around and Diamond Bar wasnt the best. A ton more traffic and cars running around now, I would imagine Air Quality would hit just below the threshold for a Smog Alert more often now. I hated the heat in the Summer through some of Fall - but some of that area, especially on campuses, you could see the season changes.
 
Thanks to the EPA, yes.
CARB blocking reg to most old diesel rigs. they plan on blocking just about every big rig diesel sooner than later. Family members are truck drivers in other states and dont come into Cali due to them needing a particulate filter on their older rigs. Still wont eliminate the smog issue. Smog only making Cali Kids training stronger - at least how Id sell my program to players/parents visiting my college athletic program.
 
CARB blocking reg to most old diesel rigs. they plan on blocking just about every big rig diesel sooner than later. Family members are truck drivers in other states and dont come into Cali due to them needing a particulate filter on their older rigs. Still wont eliminate the smog issue. Smog only making Cali Kids training stronger - at least how Id sell my program to players/parents visiting my college athletic program.
I cough less now when I play. Thanks EPA.:D
 
Late 90s - Early 00s it was fine. Dont ever remember any time we had any alerts in the SGV basin. Two friends lived in Claremont and had various roommates that went to the schools. Then again I was probably paying attention more getting to where the young ladies lived, rather than how the quality of the air was. Areas in Pomona was seemed thick with a ton of trucks roaming around and Diamond Bar wasnt the best. A ton more traffic and cars running around now, I would imagine Air Quality would hit just below the threshold for a Smog Alert more often now. I hated the heat in the Summer through some of Fall - but some of that area, especially on campuses, you could see the season changes.
I know the area. Played at CPP in the 90’s. Training during the summer was brutal. Between the heat and air quality made it tough.
 
Sounds like you got there after John Scolinos retired. Not the same after he left.
I think Ashman use to coach all the years I was there. they really they had dudes that couldnt even get the ball to the warning track playing. I use to park in the back lot and walk to main campus. I was a bit overly vocal and use to yell thing at them almost everyday. Won a hat of money, too bad mainly $1s, hitting balls into the lot in my jeans and sandals after they had enough of me yelling at them- the f'n dude still never asked if I could play. Hah
 
Most NESCAC schools (Williams, Amherst, Hamilton, Trinity, Bowdoin, Bates, Colby, Middlebury, Tufts), give their coaches a number of "golden tickets" for athletic recruits who meet minimum, but quite high, academic standards. The UAA is another top D3 academic conference (NYU, Carnegie Mellon, Brandeis, Emory, UChicago, Case Western, Wash St. Louis) whose members mostly follow similar recruiting policies to the NESCAC.

A lot depends on the culture of the school, the nature of the alumni base (often based on endowment and level of post-graduation alumni involvement), and how much emphasis they historically put on athletics. So while MIT is less inclined to help recruited athletes, at the other end of the scale Johns Hopkins acts more like a D1 school in terms of the disparity between the test score and GPA requirements for athletes versus the rest of the class (and not just for their D1 Lacrosse program). I think the vast majority of D3 schools still have recruiting policies/programs/quotas, but few have academic exceptions for these athletes.
Many consider the UAA Conference to be the most prestigious in D3. As a proof statement to the UAA's strength, in the 2016 NCAA D3 National Tournament, 3 of the Final Four were from the UAA alone. Hopkins was a founding member of the UAA but switched to the Centennial on 2002. In addition to the UAA and the NESCAC, the Centennial Conference also includes great academic institutions including Swarthmore (Centennial champs 3 out of 5 years running), Johns Hopkins(Centennial champs 2 out of 5 years running), Haveford and Bryn Mawr (not great at soccer).
 
My daughter is at a strong academic D3, and her coach played no role in admission. In fact, he didn’t want them to mention soccer at all. They got in (and money) on merit alone. He helped guide the resume, essays, etc., but he had no role with the admissions office. My daughter was recruited by Cal Tech, Vassar and several other schools of the top academic D3’s, as well. She is smarter than me and would have gotten into them if she chose them (she made her decision in Junior year). But I do know some schools let the coach have some sway in admissions.
If your player was considering Caltech (NASA, DOD, Crazy Math) and Vassar (Meryl Streep, Lisa Kudrow, Hamilton) then she has to be one of the most versatile kids in the nation :)
 
If your player was considering Caltech (NASA, DOD, Crazy Math) and Vassar (Meryl Streep, Lisa Kudrow, Hamilton) then she has to be one of the most versatile kids in the nation :)
No, she just didn’t know exactly what route she wanted to go as a Sophomore. It became clear that Cal Tech was not the right fit for her as she really thought about her interests. But we waited to narrow her options until she had a better idea of what she wanted to do.
 
Many consider the UAA Conference to be the most prestigious in D3. As a proof statement to the UAA's strength, in the 2016 NCAA D3 National Tournament, 3 of the Final Four were from the UAA alone. Hopkins was a founding member of the UAA but switched to the Centennial on 2002. In addition to the UAA and the NESCAC, the Centennial Conference also includes great academic institutions including Swarthmore (Centennial champs 3 out of 5 years running), Johns Hopkins(Centennial champs 2 out of 5 years running), Haveford and Bryn Mawr (not great at soccer).

UAA is a very impressive conference, but the travel requirements rival or exceed many D1 programs.

Just because your kid gets the grades and the test scores does not mean they will make it into a top academic school without something special/unique to differentiate them. For many kids, that will be sports.

Personally, if your child has a genuine interest in playing college sports, and a coach tells them they have absolutely no influence in the admission process, that might be a measure of the importance of athletics at that school. A future student/athlete might adjust their expectations accordingly.

I also wonder what attracts a coach to a job where they have very little power/ability to effectively recruit, but that is a topic for a different thread. I also expect some coaches' level of claimed influence in admissions is highly correlated to their interest in the player.
 
UAA is a very impressive conference, but the travel requirements rival or exceed many D1 programs.

Just because your kid gets the grades and the test scores does not mean they will make it into a top academic school without something special/unique to differentiate them. For many kids, that will be sports.

Personally, if your child has a genuine interest in playing college sports, and a coach tells them they have absolutely no influence in the admission process, that might be a measure of the importance of athletics at that school. A future student/athlete might adjust their expectations accordingly.

I also wonder what attracts a coach to a job where they have very little power/ability to effectively recruit, but that is a topic for a different thread. I also expect some coaches' level of claimed influence in admissions is highly correlated to their interest in the player.
Funny, reading the again and I may not be correct about my daughter’s school. We were talking about the finances, and he said he had no say in that but could help with what the committee looks for from applicants. Since we knew she would get in, we did not discuss if he plays a role there. I took the comments he made on his role in merit-based aid to the admission process, but that may or may not be correct.
 
UAA is a very impressive conference, but the travel requirements rival or exceed many D1 programs.

Just because your kid gets the grades and the test scores does not mean they will make it into a top academic school without something special/unique to differentiate them. For many kids, that will be sports.

Personally, if your child has a genuine interest in playing college sports, and a coach tells them they have absolutely no influence in the admission process, that might be a measure of the importance of athletics at that school. A future student/athlete might adjust their expectations accordingly.

I also wonder what attracts a coach to a job where they have very little power/ability to effectively recruit, but that is a topic for a different thread. I also expect some coaches' level of claimed influence in admissions is highly correlated to their interest in the player.[/QUOTE
 
... and a coach tells them they have absolutely no influence in the admission process, that might be a measure of the importance of athletics at that school. A future student/athlete might adjust their expectations accordingly.

I also wonder what attracts a coach to a job where they have very little power/ability to effectively recruit, but that is a topic for a different thread. I also expect some coaches' level of claimed influence in admissions is highly correlated to their interest in the player.

There are two types of college athletic programs:
  1. Money Sports: Football and Basketball
  2. Money Sucking Sports: All others, including soccer.
Coaches of the money sports have influence. Coaches of the money sucking sports have little.
 
There are two types of college athletic programs:
  1. Money Sports: Football and Basketball
  2. Money Sucking Sports: All others, including soccer.
Coaches of the money sports have influence. Coaches of the money sucking sports have little.
Can I have cream with my black eye. Ouch. So early on Saturday for that.
 
There are two types of college athletic programs:
  1. Money Sports: Football and Basketball
  2. Money Sucking Sports: All others, including soccer.
Coaches of the money sports have influence. Coaches of the money sucking sports have little.

Ice hockey (even on the women's side) makes money in many schools in the northeast and midwest.
 
There are two types of college athletic programs:
  1. Money Sports: Football and Basketball
  2. Money Sucking Sports: All others, including soccer.
Coaches of the money sports have influence. Coaches of the money sucking sports have little.

Do you actually believe this, or are you just being a jerk?
 
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