Academy players playing in a bronze level tourney?

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Question or more of a poll... what does everyone think about academy players playing in a bronze level tourney bracket (regardless if they are a year younger). Just want to know everyones thoughts. Thank you!
 
I think most academy players aren't superstars..they are most likely above average to very good..but without their other 10 teammates they won't be be able to dominate as much you think..now if its a superstar then that's different but even they need to get some practice in too..no better place to do it than in a game where it means little to the player. They can try things they otherwise wouldn't be able to do in game situations without the repercussions. Of course it's also not fair to actual bronze level players especially if one of them is dropped for the academy player. But we all know of teams that purposely play a flight or 2 down from where they should..just so they can get that all important win! I'd advise to not worry too much about it and enjoy our kids being kids..it goes by in the blink of an eye.
 
Question or more of a poll... what does everyone think about academy players playing in a bronze level tourney bracket (regardless if they are a year younger). Just want to know everyones thoughts. Thank you!

Per US Soccer rules, US Soccer DA players are not allowed to play in any outside competition during the DA season, Aug 1- June 30, regardless of age group. So this is either a rules violation or it is not accurate.
 
Per US Soccer rules, US Soccer DA players are not allowed to play in any outside competition during the DA season, Aug 1- June 30, regardless of age group. So this is either a rules violation or it is not accurate.
Yes i would like to know if this is accurate or not. It just seems silly if any DA players would play in a bronze level bracket. Regardless of touches, they should be playing to their level or close to it. But that trophy means the world to some people.
 
My daughters in a Rec basketball league. Played a team that had 7 players from their travel team on it. Took a nice 44-30 loss in that one. Not sure why a full travel team would want to play rec ball. I can see one player, but a whole team?
 
My daughters in a Rec basketball league. Played a team that had 7 players from their travel team on it. Took a nice 44-30 loss in that one. Not sure why a full travel team would want to play rec ball. I can see one player, but a whole team?
100% agree! I dont get the nbenefit other than the club getting a nice picture with one of their "teams" with a trophy. It just seems so unreal how a club, coach, ans parents would stoop so low. It takes away from the beauty of any sport.
 
Do you mean a literal DA player or just the top "academy" team of a younger age bracket? The former I don't think is allowed (at least for full time DA players) the latter I see all the time with the 7v7 and 9v9 age groups. Usually it's a matter of getting enough kids for a given tournament, especially in the summer when families go on vacation. Better to bring in a guest from a higher team than scrap the tournament, I would think.

If a coach is decent (as a human being and a coach) they play the guest "academy" player strategically and let the kids who are really on that team get solid playing time. I tend to go with what Mr. Mac says, unless the guest "academy" player is a true superstar (which they usually are not, above the average bronze player yes, the next Messi no) they can help the bronze team but shouldn't overwhelm it.
 
Do you mean a literal DA player or just the top "academy" team of a younger age bracket? The former I don't think is allowed (at least for full time DA players) the latter I see all the time with the 7v7 and 9v9 age groups. Usually it's a matter of getting enough kids for a given tournament, especially in the summer when families go on vacation. Better to bring in a guest from a higher team than scrap the tournament, I would think.

If a coach is decent (as a human being and a coach) they play the guest "academy" player strategically and let the kids who are really on that team get solid playing time. I tend to go with what Mr. Mac says, unless the guest "academy" player is a true superstar (which they usually are not, above the average bronze player yes, the next Messi no) they can help the bronze team but shouldn't overwhelm it.
Great points! In this case we faced them the 1st with 3 or 4 DA patched players ( and you could tell) and then in the final it was 6 DA patched players along eith players we didnt see the 1st time with no numbered jerseys. To top it off, some of those players literally played in the final in the silver bracket right before our final!!!!
 
Tournments all over have guest players and some bring in the ringers so that's they way goes. Team that are tight & been playing together for a while can do well so don't worry about who you play rather how you play.

It's up to the clubs to enforce the rules some don't care and as long you have dual carded players (Cal South & Us club for example) DA players will show up in tournments or they could be PT or done with thier season. It's not like there is some DA watchdog that cares or keeps track of who's play what tournment with whom. Altough playing down is not something that I would entertain for any of my kids.
 
Tournments all over have guest players and some bring in the ringers so that's they way goes. Team that are tight & been playing together for a while can do well so don't worry about who you play rather how you play.

It's up to the clubs to enforce the rules some don't care and as long you have dual carded players (Cal South & Us club for example) DA players will show up in tournments or they could be PT or done with thier season. It's not like there is some DA watchdog that cares or keeps track of who's play what tournment with whom. Altough playing down is not something that I would entertain for any of my kids.
Yes and thats the point. Just not playing down... but playing wayyyyyy down. I mean cmon
 
Club volleyball really has a great system. Expensive. But good.
Tryouts are all at the same time. You tryout. You get an offer on Sunday. You have to accept within 72 hours. You make a team. That is your team for all games. No guests. No adding players after the tryout process.
The tournaments are all connected. You do well in one, you move up a group for the next one. You do bad, you get moved down.
 
Yes and thats the point. Just not playing down... but playing wayyyyyy down. I mean cmon

Further, I fault the tournament organizers for allowing players to play simultaneously on multiple teams in the same event. At what point do people say, "hey, maybe it is not healthy for us to allow such a thing"? Back-to-back games? Sure, a fit kid will likely make it through unscathed but if they play the next day - practice or game - and the next, etc., the muscles are fatigued and a tired hammy means your risk of knee injury has SKYROCKETED (ask Klay).
 
Further, I fault the tournament organizers for allowing players to play simultaneously on multiple teams in the same event. At what point do people say, "hey, maybe it is not healthy for us to allow such a thing"? Back-to-back games? Sure, a fit kid will likely make it through unscathed but if they play the next day - practice or game - and the next, etc., the muscles are fatigued and a tired hammy means your risk of knee injury has SKYROCKETED (ask Klay).
Further, I fault the tournament organizers for allowing players to play simultaneously on multiple teams in the same event. At what point do people say, "hey, maybe it is not healthy for us to allow such a thing"? Back-to-back games? Sure, a fit kid will likely make it through unscathed but if they play the next day - practice or game - and the next, etc., the muscles are fatigued and a tired hammy means your risk of knee injury has SKYROCKETED (ask Klay).
Yes exactly! The adults, coaches, and evenparents should do whats right. It was just a joke of how the tourney was ran all weekend. From the tournament organizer (3rd party) and their terrible responses all weekend to the actual club and coaches that were handing player cards and boys to eachother like it was going out of sstyle.of course no DA player cards and didnt even know who was the right age. One boy walked up to a coach ans asked" hey coach which team and field do I go to today!"...... wow!
 
Patched DA players in a bronze tournament, and playing in silver & bronze games the same day, sounds ludicrous and I can’t believe it is allowed?? Or that any reasonable coach would do it.
 
Patched DA players in a bronze tournament, and playing in silver & bronze games the same day, sounds ludicrous and I can’t believe it is allowed?? Or that any reasonable coach would do it.

Absolutley. And the tournament organizers literally could care less. It was a great lesson for our team to define integrity, but a hard lesson to learn. They earned their way through and to have it play out like it did, was simply ridiculous.
 
Nomads did this a few years ago in a tournament we played (but not bronze). They were the late add to round out the bracket (probably free) and everyone knew what was going on. Red t-shirts with numbers written in pen, cards didn't look like any players. They were reported to event staff and had to play with real rostered players in final and lost.

What tournament and club was this?
 
Ill say it in relative terms ... sixth letter of the alphabet.. 3rd letter of the alphabet... how everyone likes their hew of fried chicken... and their are 50 of these that are united. Lol!
 
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