GU16 National Team

Don’t have a player in this age group and don’t know any of the girls on the list. I’m sure each and every one of them is incredibly talented.
That said, Slammers, PDA, Michigan Hawks, Eclipse Select, FC Stars, Crossfire and the other 70 plus ECNL clubs don’t have a single kid as deserving as the 20 who made it?

If the pissing contest has gotten to the point that all ECNL players are going to be excluded from YNT pools then they’ve reached a whole other level of pettiness. What a mess.
That is my contention and also reason for saying what I said. The whole thing is wack! Agree completely with your statement.
 
That is my contention and also reason for saying what I said. The whole thing is wack! Agree completely with your statement.
Just call it for what it is for this age group. The U16 Girls 04 DA National Team. Maybe us 2nd tier folks in ECNL can come up with a National Team too and then battle it out once a year. Now that would be something to watch :)
 
The article comes across as a bit deceiving to say over 400 call-ups. They are combining all age groups to make it sound like a bigger pool. They are including the WNT call-ups, pro and college age with the YNT teams. While that might be a correct label of "national team" call-ups I find it a bit deceptive if you are looking at Youth players verses college/Pro/WNT rosters. If you pull out all the college, pro, and WNT call-ups you have about 240 players over a span of 7 years. That averages out to about 34 players per birth year.
 
The article comes across as a bit deceiving to say over 400 call-ups. They are combining all age groups to make it sound like a bigger pool. They are including the WNT call-ups, pro and college age with the YNT teams. While that might be a correct label of "national team" call-ups I find it a bit deceptive if you are looking at Youth players verses college/Pro/WNT rosters. If you pull out all the college, pro, and WNT call-ups you have about 240 players over a span of 7 years. That averages out to about 34 players per birth year.
The article is not deceptive - "GNT/WNT". We understand you don't like the DA, my child is not in DA nor a DA club either but this article is stating facts without any bias.

"Over 400 players received call-ups to one or more U.S. Girls and Women’s National Team events so far in 2018, from the U-14 age group up to the senior level. Continue to the next page for a look at the entire U.S. Girls and Women’s National Team player pool for 2018." That's pretty much the entire article. No where does it claim to be including only youth teams or youth players.
 
I said: “While that might be a correct label of "national team" call-ups I find it a bit deceptive IF you are looking at Youth players verses college/Pro/WNT rosters”. I also said nothing about DA or ECNL.

This thread is about the YNT - not all call-ups, that’s why I was curious about the stats for the YNT and not so much about the college and pro level. To me, it looks like the older call-ups run a different path than the youth teams.
 
Just call it for what it is for this age group. The U16 Girls 04 DA National Team. Maybe us 2nd tier folks in ECNL can come up with a National Team too and then battle it out once a year. Now that would be something to watch :)
You beat me to it.
What would US Soccer do then if the ECNL All-Stars beat the DA All-Stars??? :eek:
 
Based on my limited personal experience, I am 100% certain that US Soccer is considering kids that don’t play in the GDA. My player has never played club and will be called into camp in the near future. She also had the opportunity to play up 2-3 years for Deza at the Earthquakes but US Soccer is fine with her staying where she is. Please stop all the speculation and conjecture.

This article appears accurate to me. My kid doesn’t play club or GDA. However, my kid trains with a Mexican professional academy.
https://www.soccernation.com/scouting
 
This article appears accurate to me. My kid doesn’t play club or GDA. However, my kid trains with a Mexican professional academy.
https://www.soccernation.com/scouting
Good article.. 2 years ago my daughter got invited to one of those Id training camps in Del Mar right before her age group had any da teams.. she went once a month for like 7 months.. the training was great but it just stop for us and we never got invited back.. i got kinda curious why we wouldn’t get any emails to return..So i spoke to my daughters coach about that and apparently they where only going to invite back players that where going into da.. and at time Rebels highest competition level was the coast league.. it was kinda a bummer because there wasn’t really any close teams with da and to be honest my daughter was happy being with the Rebels..
 
This article appears accurate to me. My kid doesn’t play club or GDA. However, my kid trains with a Mexican professional academy.
https://www.soccernation.com/scouting
Thanks for sharing. This article is very telling and validates the fact that they are only looking at kids in DA, which is completely lame. The funny thing is that all of this stuff is ultimately in the hands of the club and though they paint it like DA teams have some kind of synergy, in terms of coaching/training environment, they don't. The only consistent thing is the frequency of training, # of games played and DA rules. The pissing match between DA & ECNL continues and deserving kids get overlooked.
 
Good article.. 2 years ago my daughter got invited to one of those Id training camps in Del Mar right before her age group had any da teams.. she went once a month for like 7 months.. the training was great but it just stop for us and we never got invited back.. i got kinda curious why we wouldn’t get any emails to return..So i spoke to my daughters coach about that and apparently they where only going to invite back players that where going into da.. and at time Rebels highest competition level was the coast league.. it was kinda a bummer because there wasn’t really any close teams with da and to be honest my daughter was happy being with the Rebels..

"This year’s U-16s are in the first year of their two-year cycle. All of players on the roster play in the U.S. Soccer Development Academy."
Thanks for sharing. This article is very telling and validates the fact that they are only looking at kids in DA, which is completely lame. The funny thing is that all of this stuff is ultimately in the hands of the club and though they paint it like DA teams have some kind of synergy, in terms of coaching/training environment, they don't. The only consistent thing is the frequency of training, # of games played and DA rules. The pissing match between DA & ECNL continues and deserving kids get overlooked.
So sad on the girls side. I get it for the boys. Boys sacrifice HS Soccer and social life for a nice pay day. ROI baby. Girls are not boys. 99.5% of the girls are playing for college. ECNL fits that model :)

From National Team site: "This year’s U-16s are in the first year of their two-year cycle. All of players on the roster play in the U.S. Soccer Development Academy."
Any girl 04' or younger who wants to get the call up to YNT or Camps better play DA or be very very good and play far away from any DA club within 2 hours.....lol! Seriously this is wrong on so many fronts. Oh well........
 
Thanks for sharing. This article is very telling and validates the fact that they are only looking at kids in DA, which is completely lame. The funny thing is that all of this stuff is ultimately in the hands of the club and though they paint it like DA teams have some kind of synergy, in terms of coaching/training environment, they don't. The only consistent thing is the frequency of training, # of games played and DA rules. The pissing match between DA & ECNL continues and deserving kids get overlooked.
It is very unfortunate!
 
It is very unfortunate!
Tough pill to swallow. I just tell my DD that her time will come in college when it really matters. The YNT call ups are a good experience for these girls and helps their recruiting profile, but that's about it. College is the place where there will be, at least, a much greater amount of meritocrisy and ability to separate the cream.
 
Tough pill to swallow. I just tell my DD that her time will come in college when it really matters. The YNT call ups are a good experience for these girls and helps their recruiting profile, but that's about it. College is the place where there will be, at least, a much greater amount of meritocrisy and ability to separate the cream.
true.
 
I know this is a girls forum but the article mentions Danny Leyva. His is an amazing player and definitely in that 5% and not the norm. Vegas is a tough market with a lot of talent split among a few clubs. We have had boys move onto MLS DA (Like Danny) with RSL, LA Galaxy, Sounders, Minnesota United and a couple others. We have had players turn down FC Dallas, Timbers, Sounders and RSL as well. You say sacrifice and at 14yrs old you are asking child to sacrifice his life and comforts for a 5% dream. It isn't an easy decision to leave Vegas at 14 or 15, go to a new school in a new state and live with a host family in most cases. Those that do we all wish the the best as it makes our little soccer community proud. Those that stay also sacrifice there time in training as even though they didn't leave their dream still exists.
The point is US Soccer's narrow perspective on where they see national team players coming from is hurting our country. There are other Danny Leyva's in Vegas that the US is just not willing to look at or invest in. This goes for girls as well. We have a talented, dedicated, smart, athletic female players here also. Again, DA is a US Soccer brand and US Soccer will promote that first as it is a revenue stream.
 
US Soccer has made it very clear what the preferred path to the YNT is...their house, their rules. This is more about trying to marginalize the ECNL and driving top players from ECNL to DA. We have spoken to a few D1 Coaches about the DA / ECNL debate and they are well aware of what is going on. Based on the feedback they are looking for the best kids that fit their program and university...they don't care if the player comes from DA or ECNL. Today they scout both. I guess it depends what the goal is for your player, and what that journey will look like, and whats important to you, your kid, and family. If you want a shot at the YNT, and FIFA esque rules go DA, if you want High School, more college esque rules go ECNL. If you live in an area where you have one or zero options, that's very unfortunate. The choice is up to you based on what the goal is, stay put, go DA, go ECNL, make a long drive 4+ days a week, or move if it that important. Choice is yours. There is not a one-size fits all platform at this point, both leagues have merit, pros and cons.

Is it fair, no...but life is not fair. They have made the rules pretty clear, and if a chance for a call-up is in the cards for your player, it's pretty clear you better move them to a DA Club. I am 100% sure there are ECNL players capable of playing for this team, I don't think anyone would debate it. At the end of the day it is great honor for these young ladies, and they have worked hard to get where they are and have sacrificed a lot as have their families to support them along the way. They would not be there otherwise. I hope they all represent our country well and make the most of the opportunity.
 
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