College Entrance Scam includes former Yale Women's Soccer Coach

full90 said:
Didn’t UCLA get into trouble for this a long time ago? Using special admit slots to get certain kids in? I vaguely remember something like this. Maybe softball? Or soccer? Anyone remember?

Does anyone know the internal process for a university to admit a kid for sports and then get added to the roster? Could an AD do that without a coach’s knowledge? I can imagine an AD could get someone admitted but not put on a roster? The coaches would have to know right?
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In this case (when the fraud's picture is on your website and roster), ignorance is not an excuse. That leaves participant, accessory or coercion.

As or that quarterback example, there is working the system to boost college rankings by favoring recruits with higher GPA's at the bottom of your roster (that is the reason for the example you give, and almost every rankings-focused school does that), then there is committing illegal acts (or helping others do so). That QB is likely an actual athlete who could probably have played somewhere.
 
UCLA crew circling the wagons. I at least appreciate they aren't on here throwing up a bunch of smoke to deflect. This doesn't look like using a roster spot to boost the team gpa. This looks like outright fraud.

If the school and NCAA do the right thing there could be, unfortunately, a lot of collateral damage. Those who were knowingly involved should walk the plank... hopefully the programs can survive, and the kids that deserve to be there can carry on.
 
The Outlaw said:
Her bio says "honorable mention". If that's not a red flag at UCLA, I'm not sure what is. That said, I've seen many high profile football programs take a 3-star QB because he graduated Magna Cum Laude and it's not a secret he's there to boost team GPA. Did they do anything wrong... assuming that's the case?
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Other than the $250k bribe paid in Facebook stock??

Oh my...this is bad news for the Bruins.
 
ChalkOnYourBoots said:
UCLA crew circling the wagons. I at least appreciate they aren't on here throwing up a bunch of smoke to deflect. This doesn't look like using a roster spot to boost the team gpa. This looks like outright fraud.

If the school and NCAA do the right thing there could be, unfortunately, a lot of collateral damage. Those who were knowingly involved should walk the plank... hopefully the programs can survive, and the kids that deserve to be there can carry on.
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USC Crew circling Marina Del Rey, as they put Olivia Jade in the boat and are trying to make it work.
 
Imagine being the Stanford Pres or AD and getting the call that your sailing coach is selling admission to your Univ.
The sailing program received a total of $770k for two enrollees that backed out. The money was held as a deposit for one of Singer’s future clients. Amazing. upload_2019-3-12_19-54-20.jpeg
 
I'm no UCLA honk... nor am I here to defend them. Just pointing out the fact that many teams bring on players with little to no intent of really ever needing their services. Call it GPA... call it 'friend of a friend' or call it 'famous parents'. Let's not pretend UCLA and USC are foreign to the concept.
 
Saw in the article I read that she was the UCLA "Team Manager". Could it be that she was or was known to be the team manager all along and that would be permissible? Might be a way around a fraud charge anyway.
 
I think coaches should have some leeway to bring in kids who they think will benefit their program. Maybe it’s as a manager who will help. Or a great kid whose work ethic will help the team and the GPA doesn’t hurt either. Does it stink that the head coaches best friend gets a special admit to be the team manager and not my kid who would’ve loved that role? Yes. But the coach has some leeway to do that. Ok.

But a kid who the coach doesn’t know, who has never played the game at any level, and whose parents paid (illegally) another coach to make it happen? No. I sure hope there’s a good explanation.
 
Do you think Cromwell will be dismissed? The LA times reports she took one of those players on to her roster. She must have known. Sadly she probably thought it was harmless.
 
full90 said:
I think coaches should have some leeway to bring in kids who they think will benefit their program. Maybe it’s as a manager who will help. Or a great kid whose work ethic will help the team and the GPA doesn’t hurt either. Does it stink that the head coaches best friend gets a special admit to be the team manager and not my kid who would’ve loved that role? Yes. But the coach has some leeway to do that. Ok.

But a kid who the coach doesn’t know, who has never played the game at any level, and whose parents paid (illegally) another coach to make it happen? No. I sure hope there’s a good explanation.
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That's all fine and dandy unless money was exchanged (big payoffs) to make this happen.
 
So, my DD informed me that based on last year, acceptance letters for UCLA were sent out by this coming Friday. I told her don't hold your breath....If I were on the board, I would triple check all those who have been accepted this year. What a mess....I've been checking all those that are on the indicted list and I'm just baffled. These are well educated parents---for example, Elisabeth Kimmel. If you are to believe her resume, she went to Stanford and got her law degree at Harvard. Ok, with those credentials, that I'm sure she worked her ass for, you would think she would be pissed off if her kids did not achieve grades or test scores to get into a decent school. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this whole thing. :eek:
 
Well, they don’t call USC “University of Spoiled Children” for nothing...

I think the reason this story is so fascinating is because it covers so many topics and has so many implications:

1) The lengths some parents will go through to prevent their kids from experiencing failure - how are these kids going to deal with failure as adults? (Maybe they won’t have to because they have that financial safety net?)

2) This is going to draw significant attention to college athletics and admissions criteria - such as why are athletes prioritized to begin with? should coaches even have the authority to offer admission to recruits? Recruiting is going to get more difficult and stringent.

3) Will involved programs be penalized for a few years and lose NCAA eligibility?

4) Philosophically, does it really matter that people can buy their way in if they didn’t actually take up a roster spot? If the argument is that these kids didn’t earn it or weren’t as competitive as others, isn’t that the same as affirmative action? We’re talking about 50kids in the US out of 2.2 million incoming freshman each year - that’s .002%. I mean given the choice, would you rather pay $500k to get your kid into USC or just teach your kid to work hard and get their grades up so they earn it?

5) Assuming these kids graduated and are doing well, it says a lot about how you do on theses tests really don’t mean anything in terms of your potential.
 
Pretty damning for USC UCLA and Stanford. Individuals doing shady outside of the parameters of the programs but I gotta think they are all ion hot water with the ncaa. I don’t think any of these programs are very comfortable after today
 
gefelchnik said:
Also, it is strange they went through the trouble of adding her to the team page, but then left a ton of clues she wasn't a proper team member:

1. All players run through #28, and then she is added at the end as #41.
2. Only player not in the team picture
3. In profile picture, wearing a different Under Armor jersey then all the other players
4. Her about the player description has one sentence, while the rest of the players have paragraphs.
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Here's that page:

https://uclabruins.com/roster.aspx?roster=182&path=wsoc
 
This is pretty awesome... an instagram post from Jane Buckingham, a woman from LA also named in the case.Instapost.png .
 
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