2018-2019 DPL Season

I've noticed some DPL teams are playing State and Nationals. Was this left up to each club on if the teams would play there?
 
I've noticed some DPL teams are playing State and Nationals. Was this left up to each club on if the teams would play there?
I believe that it was up to each club. When I look at the '05 standings I see a decent amount of disparity with DPL games played. Legends has played 15 games while LA Galaxy has only played 7. Our team was going to play National Cup but there were too many conflicts and we had to skip. With the recent tryouts and changes some teams are making it seems that some clubs are almost treating DPL like a full league and a spring league (with player changes after the fall league due to offers made with the DA teams, pushing DA girls to DPL to make room for new DA girls). It will be interesting.
 
Who cares when you play your games? As long as by the end of the season all the teams play the same amount. If some teams play more in fall vs others who cares? In the end they all play a home and away vs everyone. If your club didn't play many in the Fall, then your club should have scheduled in a tournament or two if parents really wanted it.

Not sure how the schedules were mixed up for Silverlakes. DPL teams were playing other DPL teams and in addition would get in a game against a non DPL team. Some teams just played one DPL game I believe since they had played more early on.

For Vegas it appears many DPL are playing 2 DPL teams plus a game vs a non DPL club. What is the issue with that?

Every year teams play games be it league or tournament games after tryouts have ended. Par for the course.
Who cares when you play your games? As long as by the end of the season all the teams play the same amount. If some teams play more in fall vs others who cares? In the end they all play a home and away vs everyone. If your club didn't play many in the Fall, then your club should have scheduled in a tournament or two if parents really wanted it.

Not sure how the schedules were mixed up for Silverlakes. DPL teams were playing other DPL teams and in addition would get in a game against a non DPL team. Some teams just played one DPL game I believe since they had played more early on.

For Vegas it appears many DPL are playing 2 DPL teams plus a game vs a non DPL club. What is the issue with that?

Every year teams play games be it league or tournament games after tryouts have ended. Par for the course.

When you are playing at a showcase event but your game is a DPL league game the refs still treat it as a showcase not a league game. Rules are different. It is unfair to the girls that have reached out to college coaches who then show up to the kid and the kid is on the bench. Didn't happen to us but we know 2 families it did. If you are playing in a showcase event it should be treated as such.

And when you come back for the second part of your DPL season and the coach has been fired it would have been better to have the games front loaded. Now you are playing with a coach unknown to you as he has been not been in So cal for the past 2 years and you still have 5 months of league. Would have chosen our games to be front loaded. DPL told us we have 2 games scheduled for a weekend---not on the schedule and our team admins had not been notified. This was told to us by the girls director who is trying to calm the parents who are fed up with the lack of communication from DPL, the DPL season scheduling and the firing of the coach. I can point you to a whole group of parents and players of when the games occurred that it does matter.
 
I believe that it was up to each club. When I look at the '05 standings I see a decent amount of disparity with DPL games played. Legends has played 15 games while LA Galaxy has only played 7. Our team was going to play National Cup but there were too many conflicts and we had to skip. With the recent tryouts and changes some teams are making it seems that some clubs are almost treating DPL like a full league and a spring league (with player changes after the fall league due to offers made with the DA teams, pushing DA girls to DPL to make room for new DA girls). It will be interesting.

Is that your direct experience with your current club or are you hearing that about other clubs?
 
I agree. The DPL was formed by the DA Clubs for a variety of reasons which can be debated until the end of time. DPL teams are traditionally DA Club Second teams (except at the ‘06 Age group as there is no DA) and kids play DPL for a variety of reasons...some don’t want to practice 4 days a week, some see it as a stepping stone to DA, some want to play other sports, some want to play high school soccer, or have other interests outside of soccer...OMG can you imagine a kid with interests outside of soccer????

I don’t understand the hate for an option that works for a bunch of kids. If the kids and parents are happy playing in a league/circuit that works for them why do people give a rip and waste time bashing it? Seems like a waste of time to me.
This is why I am DPL love. The DPL hate on this forum is ridiculous. Most DPL teams recognize DPL for what it is. A competitive league, with some talented soccer players. Automatic Surf, Silverlakes and Vegas acceptance, great fields, and dependent upon the club a chance to be brought up as a DP to DA. Most parents didn’t drink the koolaid. Our daughters chose DPL for several reasons, geographic, wanted to play on HS team, it was the highest level of team our daughters were offered. I’ve got news for this forum, you may have a very talented daughter playing soccer, but because of different criteria, her style of play, her build or her personality. She might not make the team that she really wanted to make. DPL offes a fantastic alternative for many players who for whatever reasons, including not talented enough in a Coaches eye, to prove themselves. Maybe they get an opportunity to train with DA, maybe they even have a chance to actually DP with the DA team. It still allows them to work hard and to chase their dreams. Something that can never be done in Premier or Discovery. No possible room for growth other than to switch clubs to play DA or ECNL. For all of these reasons my daughter has been extremely happy playing DPL the last two years.
 
This is why I am DPL love. The DPL hate on this forum is ridiculous. Most DPL teams recognize DPL for what it is. A competitive league, with some talented soccer players. Automatic Surf, Silverlakes and Vegas acceptance, great fields, and dependent upon the club a chance to be brought up as a DP to DA. Most parents didn’t drink the koolaid. Our daughters chose DPL for several reasons, geographic, wanted to play on HS team, it was the highest level of team our daughters were offered. I’ve got news for this forum, you may have a very talented daughter playing soccer, but because of different criteria, her style of play, her build or her personality. She might not make the team that she really wanted to make. DPL offes a fantastic alternative for many players who for whatever reasons, including not talented enough in a Coaches eye, to prove themselves. Maybe they get an opportunity to train with DA, maybe they even have a chance to actually DP with the DA team. It still allows them to work hard and to chase their dreams. Something that can never be done in Premier or Discovery. No possible room for growth other than to switch clubs to play DA or ECNL. For all of these reasons my daughter has been extremely happy playing DPL the last two years.

Why could a player from premier or discovery not get promoted to a da team?
If the DPL league didn’t exist, then DA teams would pull from whatever the next highest team is.
 
Why could a player from premier or discovery not get promoted to a da team?
If the DPL league didn’t exist, then DA teams would pull from whatever the next highest team is.
It does exist. So get over it. DPL can easily transition and I said...most Discovery/Premier players would have to switch clubs. I do not know of any DA club pulling from its Discovery for DPs. Not to say it’s doesn’t exist, I’m sure it does. But the likelihood of getting pulled from DPL is very realistic. Look at the game cards. A lot of DPL players are PT players in DA across many age groups.
 
It does exist. So get over it. DPL can easily transition and I said...most Discovery/Premier players would have to switch clubs. I do not know of any DA club pulling from its Discovery for DPs. Not to say it’s doesn’t exist, I’m sure it does. But the likelihood of getting pulled from DPL is very realistic. Look at the game cards. A lot of DPL players are PT players in DA across many age groups.

What happened with our Discovery team is that DA coaches would directly call our players and offer them roster spots on the DA team. Our players repeatedly said no. DPL is fine, but players get recruited - not teams or leagues. Importantly, our normal club soccer players weren’t just recruited by DA coaches. Our D1 players ended up being recruited by and signing to play at D1 schools of their choice. Our academic D3 players ended up at high powered academic D3 schools. We were fortunate to have an outstanding coach. We were fortunate to be an organized group of parents. I am grateful that it all worked out for our kids.
 
What happened with our Discovery team is that DA coaches would directly call our players and offer them roster spots on the DA team. Our players repeatedly said no. DPL is fine, but players get recruited - not teams or leagues. Importantly, our normal club soccer players weren’t just recruited by DA coaches. Our D1 players ended up being recruited by and signing to play at D1 schools of their choice. Our academic D3 players ended up at high powered academic D3 schools. We were fortunate to have an outstanding coach. We were fortunate to be an organized group of parents. I am grateful that it all worked out for our kids.
Sounds like you are at an exceptional Discovery Club/team. I would venture to guess that is not the norm. I base this on extensive research that my crazy friend did trying to decide where her DD 03 should play. She compared DPL and Discovery/Premier for 2019 soccer commits listed on Top Drawer. DPL had multiple commits and out paced Premier/Discovery by 2-1. DPL commits from a few D1’s through NAIA commitmented to play. She found only a handful from Discovery/Premier. She cross referenced the DPL rosters on Got Soccer. A few DPL clubs don’t show the roster for DPl so the number could actually be higher. I am sure many Premier/ Discovery not listed on Top Drawer so I am not concluding her research 100% accurate. Her research overal lead her to believe her DD shoukd continue to play DPL.
 
Sounds like you are at an exceptional Discovery Club/team. I would venture to guess that is not the norm. I base this on extensive research that my crazy friend did trying to decide where her DD 03 should play. She compared DPL and Discovery/Premier for 2019 soccer commits listed on Top Drawer. DPL had multiple commits and out paced Premier/Discovery by 2-1. DPL commits from a few D1’s through NAIA commitmented to play. She found only a handful from Discovery/Premier. She cross referenced the DPL rosters on Got Soccer. A few DPL clubs don’t show the roster for DPl so the number could actually be higher. I am sure many Premier/ Discovery not listed on Top Drawer so I am not concluding her research 100% accurate. Her research overal lead her to believe her DD shoukd continue to play DPL.

I would bet dollars to donuts that you made every bit of that up to push your point of view..
 
Is that your direct experience with your current club or are you hearing that about other clubs?
RE: CRL/National Cup - What I understand is that our team/club was told we could not play CRL or National Cup (DPL teams) as it was against league (DPL) rules and there would be heavy fines for doing so. The club was perplexed, and not happy, then when other clubs had DPL teams playing in both CRL & National Cup.

RE: Disparity - There seems to be a fair amount of disparity with teams. DD's team won on Saturday 7-0, then tied 2-2 on Sunday. Sunday they gave up 2 goals which matches the goals against for the whole season up until that point. Teams was missing 5 players (3 played with DA, 1 injured & 1 spring break), but this was a team we handled in Las Vegas last month.

RE: Being treated like 2 seasons - another local club had DPL tryouts in January and asked for commitments and $ for the 2019-2020 season even though the current season goes until early June.

RE: Roster changes - yes, there have been DA offers to girls on our DPL team, and (allegedly) girls on a local DA team have not been told they won't be back with DA teams, yet their teammates have found out that there are roster changes on DPL, with the affected players names on the DPL roster.

I believe that there will continue to be movement right up until roster freeze deadline. It is a stressful time of year for many.
 
I would bet dollars to donuts that you made every bit of that up to push your point of view..
I have no idea if his claims are true.
But both leagues (DPL and Discovery) have really only been around for a year (dpl “sort of “ existed for 1 year longer).
I’d say look at Discovery, champions, Europa and probably even flight 2 if you want to do a proper comparison.
 
It still allows them to work hard and to chase their dreams. Something that can never be done in Premier or Discovery. No possible room for growth other than to switch clubs to play DA or ECNL.

Wrong! You see, everything you said up until these three sentences was absolutely fine, no problem with any of that. The problem is the DPL parents who can’t help themselves by throwing digs at other leagues in order to make DPL the superior league, at least in their eyes. Tell me these weren’t digs at Premiere and discovery? The problem has never been with DPL per se, the problem has always been with its creation (they do could have done everything they do now without creation of a new league just as everything that is done with ‘discovery’ could be done without creating the ‘discovery’ league) and people arguing its superiority over other leagues and teams.
 
Wrong! You see, everything you said up until these three sentences was absolutely fine, no problem with any of that. The problem is the DPL parents who can’t help themselves by throwing digs at other leagues in order to make DPL the superior league, at least in their eyes. Tell me these weren’t digs at Premiere and discovery? The problem has never been with DPL per se, the problem has always been with its creation (they do could have done everything they do now without creation of a new league just as everything that is done with ‘discovery’ could be done without creating the ‘discovery’ league) and people arguing its superiority over other leagues and teams.
DPL was originally called "DAII" by a local SD club. At the roll out of the DA & DAII information the club provided a slide show explaining how "DAII" was going to work (yes I saved the digital handout). A website for usdaii.com was registered to an individual that works for the same club. The verbiage in the handout went something like this: "....is collaborating with other Southwest Conference DA clubs to form a DAII league that will bridge the gap for aspiring academy players not yet ready to make the commitment to the full DA. Program designed to mirror the DA program. Will follow same gaming rules as DA."

It seems to me that the DPL, originally "DAII", was pitched as a path for DA caliber girls not ready to commit to DA. What DPL is, clearly is something different than what was originally pitched, a second team for clubs that cannot offer DA & ECNL (which I believe that we are down to 1 here in So Cal). My kid is on a DPL team and while I have been disappointed with many things, the coaching and competition at her practices has been excellent. Perhaps some parents still believe what they were told by club DOCs.

I know what DPL is. My kid knows what DPL is, and my kid is happy, therefore I am happy. Good luck to all the kids, no matter what league they play in.
 
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RE: CRL/National Cup - What I understand is that our team/club was told we could not play CRL or National Cup (DPL teams) as it was against league (DPL) rules and there would be heavy fines for doing so. The club was perplexed, and not happy, then when other clubs had DPL teams playing in both CRL & National Cup.

RE: Disparity - There seems to be a fair amount of disparity with teams. DD's team won on Saturday 7-0, then tied 2-2 on Sunday. Sunday they gave up 2 goals which matches the goals against for the whole season up until that point. Teams was missing 5 players (3 played with DA, 1 injured & 1 spring break), but this was a team we handled in Las Vegas last month.

RE: Being treated like 2 seasons - another local club had DPL tryouts in January and asked for commitments and $ for the 2019-2020 season even though the current season goes until early June.

RE: Roster changes - yes, there have been DA offers to girls on our DPL team, and (allegedly) girls on a local DA team have not been told they won't be back with DA teams, yet their teammates have found out that there are roster changes on DPL, with the affected players names on the DPL roster.

I believe that there will continue to be movement right up until roster freeze deadline. It is a stressful time of year for many.
When is roster freeze for DPL?
 
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