Latest merger affiliate partnership....

timbuck said:
FC Premier seemed to have a pretty good thing going. What do they get for going with Galaxy OC?
Galaxy OC does't have DA or ECNL (which is why most clubs seem to attach themselves lately). Surely the draw of discounted Galaxy tickets and an herbalife logo on an overpriced adidas kid isn't enough to switch?
FC Premier had 58 teams in SCDSL last year. This looks like at least 10 more than in the prior year. They seem to have a good mix of teams across the various flights.
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For those still confused, this one couldn't be more obvious. With 58 teams, they had no need to merge with anyone, especially a club with the same limited options for olders. If one still doesn't believe this is all done just for the money, they will never figure it out. Money, Money, Money. However, this club is unique in that it has a lot of teams that have independent coaches with their own teams and if OC Galaxy starts giving out mandates, this club may actually lose teams.
 
timbuck said:
Here's the official letter announcing the Strikers MV/OC Surf arrangement.
https://www.soccertoday.com/surf-gr...U1tQG5AmhR-W6lygN3Le1aSVXL5wEa99opmqj5OIAAV4k

“Surf is an organization that’s taken care of everything and they’re delivering on what they say,” said Castle, Sr., OC Surf Mission Viejo’s president.

“Branding is super, super important, and the Surf brand name is highly respected and deserves to be — People in this area love name brands. That’s why so many people drive a Lexus over a Toyota,” said Castle.
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I'm sure Castle Sr said the same thing when he affiliated his San Clemente United Club with the Irvine Strikers.
 
Crazysoccerscene said:
I'm sure Castle Sr said the same thing when he affiliated his San Clemente United Club with the Irvine Strikers.
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For sure. The guys that collect the kickback on uniforms from soccer.com are happy. They don't need to do much other than make sure the logo looks right.
20 teams x 15 players = 300 new uniforms. $250 per per uniform. $75,000 running through soccer.com.
Figure the surf parent gets 15% = $11,250. That's a nice vacation to Hawaii for someone.
 
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timbuck said:
....$75,000 running through soccer.com.
Figure the surf parent gets 15% = $11,250. That's a nice vacation to Hawaii for someone.
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NO ONE in retail (online or brick and mortar) has that kind of margin to dish out as a part of the agreement. If you are saying Surf gets 15% of net profit from the uni sales at soccer.com, fine. That number is much smaller than quoted above. Of the 75K, soccer.com cost is probably 25K to Nike, then their own infrastructure and sales costs, along with customization cost that brings their total cost to probably around 40K. So the actual profit maybe 35K on the high side and if 15%, then that's 5.25K.

Having one of the kids played for the original SD Surf, I can tell you that the fee is not any higher than other high profile clubs. They all run 2.5~3k/yr without any uniform costs.

If you want DA access, goto SD Surf. If you want ECNL, goto OC Surf (West Coast). The only reason to pick any brand name club is to actually join the DA/ECNL team at the club. Otherwise, what's the point? There are plenty of good club teams that do not belong to National gaming circuits.
 
"One of the only English soccer people in the Southern California area who doesn’t profess to have played in the Premier League, Castle, Sr. is a dedicated coach who believes in helping his players reach for their dreams and become their best." - A Zinger or Xenophobia from Scavuzzo?
 
Sunil Illuminati said:
"One of the only English soccer people in the Southern California area who doesn’t profess to have played in the Premier League, Castle, Sr. is a dedicated coach who believes in helping his players reach for their dreams and become their best." - A Zinger or Xenophobia from Scavuzzo?
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funny given the number of english coaches who work at youth level for galaxy. sometimes feels like an accent is required for employment at Galaxy
 
I also found that statement to be a bit of a head scratcher.
Are they saying that all of the guys with English accents are claiming to have played in the Prem? Because I've met a lot of them and I don't know any that have made that claim.
 
mirage said:
NO ONE in retail (online or brick and mortar) has that kind of margin to dish out as a part of the agreement. If you are saying Surf gets 15% of net profit from the uni sales at soccer.com, fine. That number is much smaller than quoted above. Of the 75K, soccer.com cost is probably 25K to Nike, then their own infrastructure and sales costs, along with customization cost that brings their total cost to probably around 40K. So the actual profit maybe 35K on the high side and if 15%, then that's 5.25K.

Having one of the kids played for the original SD Surf, I can tell you that the fee is not any higher than other high profile clubs. They all run 2.5~3k/yr without any uniform costs.

If you want DA access, goto SD Surf. If you want ECNL, goto OC Surf (West Coast). The only reason to pick any brand name club is to actually join the DA/ECNL team at the club. Otherwise, what's the point? There are plenty of good club teams that do not belong to National gaming circuits.
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Wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment and details of your post. Just one minor correction, OC Surf (West Coast) are DA not ECNL.
 
futboldad1 said:
Wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment and details of your post. Just one minor correction, OC Surf (West Coast) are DA not ECNL.
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Sort of. They are DA only for girls. But they are ECNL for boys youngers.
If anyone can explain how or why, please do.
 
timbuck said:
I also found that statement to be a bit of a head scratcher.
Are they saying that all of the guys with English accents are claiming to have played in the Prem? Because I've met a lot of them and I don't know any that have made that claim.
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yeah most i know havent either, but most will say played at "Academy X". most folks wont know the academy or know its just the local town/school team. Sucks when they meet an American who has played in England, worse if they played for the local team they are from.

This isnt just an English trend. You see a lot this from people who grew up in Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Other Big Footballing Country. They fudge the resumes by saying they played in Argentine or Brazilian leagues or played at Corinthians - but wont state they stopped playing their at the age of 10. If you see they came to the US and played DIII yet played pro in their home country before then - something probably is not true.
 
Surf has now planted roots in Texas- https://www.soccertoday.com/surf-sc...u7v21AWXdX-JNgXC0rW67oXTeXFOHsfrRKXYHWUhu-0Xs

"Now, for the first time, the Surf brand is reaching into the Lonestar State, as Surf Cup Sports announces a five-year partnership with Advanced Soccer Academy, which will now become El Paso Surf."

"NOW IN SIX STATES WITH OVER 12,000 PLAYERS, THE SURF AFFILIATE PROGRAM HAS BEEN ORGANICALLY GROWING SINCE 2012."

I'm not sure they understand what "organically growing" means.
 
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