U17 Women's World Cup

El Clasico said:
I can't imagine this not changing fairly soon. How many beatings are they going to allow the GDA girls to take before, 1. they widen the net to open up the selection process and 2. the beatings destroy the reputation, credibility and influence of the GDA program. They are almost to the point where they are going to have to take the best XI to start on the field and then they can load the bench with GDA players so that they can claim to be majority GDA players on YNT rosters. The one thing that none of the teams can continue to do is getting beat, and soundly, by the competition. However, know US Soccer, they will likely go back to playing, and whooping, teams like El Salvador and then publicly claiming how great these US player are. Just a joke.
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Well, if we are keeping our criticisms fair, the age-group changes and the GDA were not part of these players' selection process. These players have all been a part of the US Soccer system before both were implemented. My understanding is this group has had the same coach for 3+ years? The benefits of GDA and age-group changes would begin to show in 2005 and younger, if at all.
 
DA system has been in place for 10+ years for the men. The men recently did not qualify for the World Cup. What makes u think it will work for the girls?
 
El Clasico said:
I can't imagine this not changing fairly soon. How many beatings are they going to allow the GDA girls to take before, 1. they widen the net to open up the selection process and 2. the beatings destroy the reputation, credibility and influence of the GDA program. They are almost to the point where they are going to have to take the best XI to start on the field and then they can load the bench with GDA players so that they can claim to be majority GDA players on YNT rosters. The one thing that none of the teams can continue to do is getting beat, and soundly, by the competition. However, know US Soccer, they will likely go back to playing, and whooping, teams like El Salvador and then publicly claiming how great these US player are. Just a joke.
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US Soccer has the advantage of D1 NCAA Soccer to develop and filter out the best players for it on the girls side. It is a sad but obvious truth. They get to select kids at 13/14 years of age and designate them as the future. They then create a self fulfilling by calling other kids in only occasionally. The YNT’s on the girls side are very cliquish and it makes it harder for the kids called in once to show their abilities especially if the ball is never passed to them or they possess skills that aren’t necessarily going to show up on a scoresheet.

They can misidentify all they want because ultimately they are going to pick most of their players from the top players from D1 who have performed and been developed by others. Really the underlying problem is that most of the best women’s coaches are coaching BIGTIME D1 programs. They are the best at identifying the talent and developing it. It’s hard for the best coaches to give up well paying positions for the volatility of coaching a YNT so all you get is the hacks that are cronies of the current administration.
 
With this unexpected performance just wondering what US Soccer will do next. If they truly believe they have the most talented players then I would think they should stick with these players and work on developing them learning from this WC. In looking at the past 10 years though there is a significant turnover in the rosters from U17 to U20. There are only 4-5 players that they seem to keep and carry forward to the next age group. Do they question their own selections that much that they switch it out so much each age division rather than sticking with their selections to see them through?
 
Soccer43 said:
With this unexpected performance just wondering what US Soccer will do next. If they truly believe they have the most talented players then I would think they should stick with these players and work on developing them learning from this WC. In looking at the past 10 years though there is a significant turnover in the rosters from U17 to U20. There are only 4-5 players that they seem to keep and carry forward to the next age group. Do they question their own selections that much that they switch it out so much each age division rather than sticking with their selections to see them through?
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With a different head coach assigned to each age group, it’s not surprising the roster evolves over time. US Soccer tried a different strategy with this particular group, allowing MC to stay with this team for the past four years with few changes to the starting roster (except for several key injuries). In the US games I watched, I saw some tremendous athletes that lacked the tactical understanding of how to play as a team. So I guess it comes down to one of two issues, either US Soccer is making some questionable identification decisions or MC struggled to bring these girls together as a team when it mattered most.
 
Soccer43 said:
With this unexpected performance just wondering what US Soccer will do next. If they truly believe they have the most talented players then I would think they should stick with these players and work on developing them learning from this WC. In looking at the past 10 years though there is a significant turnover in the rosters from U17 to U20. There are only 4-5 players that they seem to keep and carry forward to the next age group. Do they question their own selections that much that they switch it out so much each age division rather than sticking with their selections to see them through?
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MC who?

He was an assistant at UCLA and then a head coach at USF and didn’t win anything. Just another Hue Jackson, Clay Helton, etc. What do we expect when the keys to the castle are given to a C coach. C’mon

You want a game changer? Need to hire Radcliffe, Jerry Smith, Anson Dorrance——-PROVEN winners....and now maybe Amanda Cromwell who’s won at both UCF and UCLA.
1 million dollar salary guranteed for 5 years paid by US Soccer.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Honestly you should leave it alone. You might have a different opinion if you had the police called on you by white people for doing normal shit.
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Beating up old ladies in a wheelchair is normal? I doubt anything you do is normal. People have good reason to be suspicious.
 
Where's the love for Canada!!?? We did something USA couldn't...beat Germany. Didn't even need PKs. And by doing so, made it to the semi-final for the first time. Still can't believe Germany played a 5-4-1 the entire game, especially after watching them dynamically beat a strong North Korea team in group. Epic mistake by Germany coach, but glad she did.

Either Mexico or Canada will be in the final. Wow! Spain still the heavy favorite but maybe they'll play a 6-4-0 and give other team a chance?
 
oh canada said:
Where's the love for Canada!!?? We did something USA couldn't...beat Germany. Didn't even need PKs. And by doing so, made it to the semi-final for the first time. Still can't believe Germany played a 5-4-1 the entire game, especially after watching them dynamically beat a strong North Korea team in group. Epic mistake by Germany coach, but glad she did.

Either Mexico or Canada will be in the final. Wow! Spain still the heavy favorite but maybe they'll play a 6-4-0 and give other team a chance?
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I was impressed with the Candians. I was also surprised (like you) the Germans sat back with all that quality up top and let Canada possess most of the game. Weird. Canada backline super solid.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
MC who?

He was an assistant at UCLA and then a head coach at USF and didn’t win anything. Just another Hue Jackson, Clay Helton, etc. What do we expect when the keys to the castle are given to a C coach. C’mon

You want a game changer? Need to hire Radcliffe, Jerry Smith, Anson Dorrance——-PROVEN winners....and now maybe Amanda Cromwell who’s won at both UCF and UCLA.
1 million dollar salary guranteed for 5 years paid by US Soccer.
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Yes, AD is a winner, but far from the answer. I like the idea of PR. He's navigating in a manner that could further the USWNT in direction that could continue an upward trajectory. But, would he leave Stanford?
 
Soccer Wire interviewed Anson Dorrance and asked him about his impression of the U17 performance. It was a very interesting read. A few key takeaways. He was impressed with the level of athleticism on the US side. He felt US girls at this age lack the tactical knowledge it takes to be successful at the highest level. He believes the real learning will come in college and lastly, he said the US girls don’t watch enough professional soccer or as he described it, they don’t immerse themselves in the game at the youth level.
 
San Diego said:
Soccer Wire interviewed Anson Dorrance and asked him about his impression of the U17 performance. It was a very interesting read. A few key takeaways. He was impressed with the level of athleticism on the US side. He felt US girls at this age lack the tactical knowledge it takes to be successful at the highest level. He believes the real learning will come in college and lastly, he said the US girls don’t watch enough professional soccer or as he described it, they don’t immerse themselves in the game at the youth level.
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Sure would be a hell of a lot easier to immerse themselves into the sport (in that manner) if it were televised !!! Live streaming sucks, and not always reliable. NWSL isn’t televised, Womens College Cup, No! Maybe if people like Dorrance would speak to that, it would help.
 
Kicknit22 said:
Sure would be a hell of a lot easier to immerse themselves into the sport (in that manner) if it were televised !!! Live streaming sucks, and not always reliable. NWSL isn’t televised, Womens College Cup, No! Maybe if people like Dorrance would speak to that, it would help.
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Agree on the shame of no TV for NCAA Women's college soccer tournament. I think there is a large enough audience to justify a TV contract somewhere, with a focus on regional games in each market.

However, my kids have watched EPL, Bundesliga, Champions League and the occasional El Classico for 10+ years most weekends. Plenty of soccer on TV. Been up at 6AM more than a few times to catch the England games live. But NWSL (I think televised on Lifetime) and MLS (on ESPN) does not hold the same appeal once you get spoiled by watching European soccer.
 
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