Silverlakes Showcase: DA vs ECNL

It shouldn't matter if they are top teams or not. If the philosophy is that the best of the best are in the academy system then every academy team should win every game against a non-DA team. So far, it is about 50-50. As I have said before, there are some excellent DA teams and some excellent ECNL teams and then the rest of the conferences for each are not the best of the best. Would love to see a true national championship - 1st place DA team against 1st place ECNL team in the final championship match. That would be fun to watch.
 
Soccer43 said:
It shouldn't matter if they are top teams or not. If the philosophy is that the best of the best are in the academy system then every academy team should win every game against a non-DA team. So far, it is about 50-50. As I have said before, there are some excellent DA teams and some excellent ECNL teams and then the rest of the conferences for each are not the best of the best. Would love to see a true national championship - 1st place DA team against 1st place ECNL team in the final championship match. That would be fun to watch.
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You would love to see a National Championship that ignores the majority of teams in the country?
 
Soccer43 said:
It shouldn't matter if they are top teams or not. If the philosophy is that the best of the best are in the academy system then every academy team should win every game against a non-DA team. So far, it is about 50-50. As I have said before, there are some excellent DA teams and some excellent ECNL teams and then the rest of the conferences for each are not the best of the best. Would love to see a true national championship - 1st place DA team against 1st place ECNL team in the final championship match. That would be fun to watch.
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That would make sense but your/we are still eliminating a good fraction of club teams. I agree there are good DA teams and good ECNL teams but well never see the best of the best at these tournaments.
 
gotothebushes said:
That would make sense but your/we are still eliminating a good fraction of club teams. I agree there are good DA teams and good ECNL teams but well never see the best of the best at these tournaments.
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Pitch pop said:
Any thoughts on the matchups between the DA and ECNL teams?
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Mijo, why don’t you go to the showcase website and look at the stats and see for yourself!!! It’s not to hard to see the dilution between DA, DPL, ECNL and Premier. There are strong teams in all 4 leagues and at each age group. Some teams even play with no subs and do well. Good luck to all of us!
 
Soccer43 said:
It shouldn't matter if they are top teams or not. If the philosophy is that the best of the best are in the academy system then every academy team should win every game against a non-DA team. So far, it is about 50-50. As I have said before, there are some excellent DA teams and some excellent ECNL teams and then the rest of the conferences for each are not the best of the best. Would love to see a true national championship - 1st place DA team against 1st place ECNL team in the final championship match. That would be fun to watch.
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The best player(s) don't always play DA. Or ECNL for that matter.
 
Likely 95% of the best players play either DA or ECNL. By they way you all sound like a broken record, DA vs ECNL, true national champion, dilution of leagues, one league should always beat another, etc. Why does DPL need to exist? DA? ECNL? Flight #1 teams are just as good as those teams! Let’s not forget Premier! How about those great AYSO players! Or only if our best athletes played soccer instead of other sports. I say give it a break and just enjoy the games that are played. Even the best teams lose games.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Likely 95% of the best players play either DA or ECNL. By they way you all sound like a broken record, DA vs ECNL, true national champion, dilution of leagues, one league should always beat another, etc. Why does DPL need to exist? DA? ECNL? Flight #1 teams are just as good as those teams! Let’s not forget Premier! How about those great AYSO players! Or only if our best athletes played soccer instead of other sports. I say give it a break and just enjoy the games that are played. Even the best teams lose games.
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Likely? What is that guess based on?
 
We had a girl from our team join a DA team and starts. 4th best field player from our team. She tried out, other 3 didn’t. Why? Cost, girls like current coaching, and they like playing with the girls that are on the team. Factor that over all the teams and I’d say 95% is way too high.

That doesn’t mean that the best teams aren’t from ECNL or DA, but that there are hundreds of girls at just the 05 level that are as good as DA and ECNL girls.
 
espola said:
Likely? What is that guess based on?
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Only based on girls not boys. My knowledge of the 00/01 scene. Not based on younger age groups. If you look at the D1/2 commitments my feel is that you would be around 95%. I trust that those coaches know talent.
 
socalkdg said:
We had a girl from our team join a DA team and starts. 4th best field player from our team. She tried out, other 3 didn’t. Why? Cost, girls like current coaching, and they like playing with the girls that are on the team. Factor that over all the teams and I’d say 95% is way too high.

That doesn’t mean that the best teams aren’t from ECNL or DA, but that there are hundreds of girls at just the 05 level that are as good as DA and ECNL girls.
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05’s don’t count. That’s 8th grade? Lol! Just wait until 10th/11th grade. If those girls are good they will move to either DA or ECNL so they have a better shot at playing in college.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Only based on girls not boys. My knowledge of the 00/01 scene. Not based on younger age groups. If you look at the D1/2 commitments my feel is that you would be around 95%. I trust that those coaches know talent.
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Sorry but your percentage is off, you may know some 00/01 teams if you are in DA/ECNL. However you are way off, my DD plays for Rebels Elite 01 Marquez, the commits from that team alone are higher than some DA/ECNL teams alone. Having watched them play in Nationals and Far West Regionals, lets not take anything away from Coast Premier and California Regional League. I feel very safe saying that their are way more than 5% of girls who could easily be on any number of DA/ECNL teams. Coaching is the biggest factor in staying in a top team. Team chemistry is a good second. Everything else usually follows, and by that I mean success.
I know that ECNL teams have played and lost to these premier teams with premier players. It would be nice to see if DA would be willing to do the same. I predict that some DA teams wouldn't want to play against these premier teams.
 
ChargerPride said:
Sorry but your percentage is off, you may know some 00/01 teams if you are in DA/ECNL. However you are way off, my DD plays for Rebels Elite 01 Marquez, the commits from that team alone are higher than some DA/ECNL teams alone. Having watched them play in Nationals and Far West Regionals, lets not take anything away from Coast Premier and California Regional League. I feel very safe saying that their are way more than 5% of girls who could easily be on any number of DA/ECNL teams. Coaching is the biggest factor in staying in a top team. Team chemistry is a good second. Everything else usually follows, and by that I mean success.
I know that ECNL teams have played and lost to these premier teams with premier players. It would be nice to see if DA would be willing to do the same. I predict that some DA teams wouldn't want to play against these premier teams.
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I can second what your saying. Your rebels team is very good and could easily compete/beat many DA1 teams. My daughters team plays your 00 teams which are the same. My daughters team has almost entire team D1 committed and my dd turned down DA1 and ECNL since 9th grade because she didn’t want to commute and wanted to play HS. Most of the girls could of played DA but choose to stay local and together. I can guarantee there are MANY in the same boat and there is more than one path to a college commitment. Talent is talent wherever you play.
 
ChargerPride said:
Sorry but your percentage is off, you may know some 00/01 teams if you are in DA/ECNL. However you are way off, my DD plays for Rebels Elite 01 Marquez, the commits from that team alone are higher than some DA/ECNL teams alone. Having watched them play in Nationals and Far West Regionals, lets not take anything away from Coast Premier and California Regional League. I feel very safe saying that their are way more than 5% of girls who could easily be on any number of DA/ECNL teams. Coaching is the biggest factor in staying in a top team. Team chemistry is a good second. Everything else usually follows, and by that I mean success.
I know that ECNL teams have played and lost to these premier teams with premier players. It would be nice to see if DA would be willing to do the same. I predict that some DA teams wouldn't want to play against these premier teams.
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Nothing against the your team. I agree you have the best non DA/ ECNL team but your the exception not the rule. Curious on how many girls on your 01 team is committed and to what levels if you care to share.
 
ChargerPride said:
Sorry but your percentage is off, you may know some 00/01 teams if you are in DA/ECNL. However you are way off, my DD plays for Rebels Elite 01 Marquez, the commits from that team alone are higher than some DA/ECNL teams alone. Having watched them play in Nationals and Far West Regionals, lets not take anything away from Coast Premier and California Regional League. I feel very safe saying that their are way more than 5% of girls who could easily be on any number of DA/ECNL teams. Coaching is the biggest factor in staying in a top team. Team chemistry is a good second. Everything else usually follows, and by that I mean success.
I know that ECNL teams have played and lost to these premier teams with premier players. It would be nice to see if DA would be willing to do the same. I predict that some DA teams wouldn't want to play against these premier teams.
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There are about 63 2001 teams in Coast and 53 more teams in SCSDL. Let’s say an average of 16 girls a team. That’s 1,863 girls. DA has 12 SoCal teams averaging 18 girls a team. ECNL has 7 SoCal teams. That’s another 342 girls. DPL has 11 SoCal teams averaging 16 girls for another 176 girls. So a total of 2,381 2001 girls. 5% of that is 119 girls. My comment about 95% leaves 119 girls playing Premier or Flight 1 that at least as good as DA/ECNL girls (presuming the DPL girls would be playing DA if they could). That’s a lot of talent still.
 
ChargerPride said:
Sorry but your percentage is off, you may know some 00/01 teams if you are in DA/ECNL. However you are way off, my DD plays for Rebels Elite 01 Marquez, the commits from that team alone are higher than some DA/ECNL teams alone. Having watched them play in Nationals and Far West Regionals, lets not take anything away from Coast Premier and California Regional League. I feel very safe saying that their are way more than 5% of girls who could easily be on any number of DA/ECNL teams. Coaching is the biggest factor in staying in a top team. Team chemistry is a good second. Everything else usually follows, and by that I mean success.
I know that ECNL teams have played and lost to these premier teams with premier players. It would be nice to see if DA would be willing to do the same. I predict that some DA teams wouldn't want to play against these premier teams.
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DA teams already lost to SoCal Academy 00/01 team at Surf Cup this summer. I doubt that DA is going to want to have that experience again.
 
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