Latest merger affiliate partnership....

timbuck said:
At what point do people start to spin out of these deals and create small, independent clubs again?
Surely there are some coaches out there who think they could run things better on their own. Everyone talks. At what point do we see top coaches from competing clubs come together and break away from the mothership?
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This merger/affiliate absolute madness is why there will always be a place for smaller clubs. Of course, running a boutique/smaller club, I would say that. There are pros and cons to both which I’ve talked about and written about before but there will always be room for both big and small/niche IMO.

If you run a solid program and want to maintain coaching standards (among many other things that become uncontrollable at scale), I don’t see why you would want to merge or affiliate. I get the idea and some of the rationale behind it but by the sound of things, it more often than not turns out to be not anywhere near as good as promised and occasionally, turns into a disaster or farce.

Now, if you have an average/poor program and want to merge or affiliate to get a boost and try to revlitalise your club or program, I completely understand the merger or affiliate route. Ultimately, if the kids are better off then it’s hard to argue against it.
 
We complain about the affiliates and then complain that DA isn’t fully funded. If some shmuck wants to pay $2k+ for his kid to play for Pats IE Or OC galaxy west who are we to judge? He gets to tell his friends that his daughter /son plays club soccer and my kid gets a free ride. We both sleep good at night. Win win. Seriously though, I think it sounds like a great business plan. Suck up all the lower end clubs make them cash cows to fund your DA. The affiliate Can pretend like they are a feeder into XYZ’s DA program and that DA program can be fully funded. Attracting and graduating top talent into top universities/national teams. Win win
 
I’ve said it before- we aren’t too far away from each club having their own separate fall league. And then play against other clubs in tournaments.
 
timbuck said:
I’ve said it before- we aren’t too far away from each club having their own separate fall league. And then play against other clubs in tournaments.
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State Cup rules require participation in a Cal-South sanctioned league, but just barely.

3.1. The team must have competed in a Cal South approved Fall League playing a minimum of four (4) games prior to State Cup application deadline using Cal South approved player passes for the seasonal year.

https://media.calsouth.com/data/Downloads/State_Tournaments/2019/2019StateCupRules.pdf?rev=D1AA
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espola said:
State Cup rules require participation in a Cal-South sanctioned league, but just barely.

3.1. The team must have competed in a Cal South approved Fall League playing a minimum of four (4) games prior to State Cup application deadline using Cal South approved player passes for the seasonal year.

https://media.calsouth.com/data/Downloads/State_Tournaments/2019/2019StateCupRules.pdf?rev=D1AA
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I sincerely ask - is State Cup an event worth planning any part of youth soccer around?
 
espola said:
State Cup rules require participation in a Cal-South sanctioned league, but just barely.

3.1. The team must have competed in a Cal South approved Fall League playing a minimum of four (4) games prior to State Cup application deadline using Cal South approved player passes for the seasonal year.

https://media.calsouth.com/data/Downloads/State_Tournaments/2019/2019StateCupRules.pdf?rev=D1AA
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Cal south is asleep at the wheel anyway.
How do you let so many leagues pop up in the same geography in the matter of 5 years?
 
Dummy said:
I sincerely ask - is State Cup an event worth planning any part of youth soccer around?
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Clubs go along with the CS promotion that State & Nat cup is all that so they can retain customers and get new ones. In reality it's just another tournament, a big regional one at that can be a fun experience but once you done it repeating year after year when there are so many other Tournaments and comps to choose from is limiting IMO.

Playing new or different comps like Disney, Dallas, North cal Tournaments, Vegas, overseas may not be in everyone's budget but kids seem to enjoy that over the same old Cups playing the same teams. Life's short while repeat the same comps vs the same teams year after year, even when you win it or do well time to move on to what's next?
 
jpeter said:
Clubs go along with the CS promotion that State & Nat cup is all that so they can retain customers and get new ones. In reality it's just another tournament, a big regional one at that can be a fun experience but once you done it repeating year after year when there are so many other Tournaments and comps to choose from is limiting IMO.

Playing new or different comps like Disney, Dallas, North cal Tournaments, Vegas, overseas may not be in everyone's budget but kids seem to enjoy that over the same old Cups playing the same teams. Life's short while repeat the same comps vs the same teams year after year, even when you win it or do well time to move on to what's next?
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My kids played in tournaments in four other states and two foreign countries. They also played some level of State Cup every year from 1999 to 2010.
 
espola said:
My kids played in tournaments in four other states and two foreign countries. They also played some level of State Cup every year from 1999 to 2010.
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Good for them.

Times have changed CS is no longer the only game in town.

There tournments and championships for da, ecnl, npl, national leagues, etc. Usclub & ussda have higher level comp in some cases so while the state cup tournament is good for youngers who don't need to travel there are many more options & tournments for those that don't see the value of repeating tournments year after year with the same sets of teams
 
Same set of teams? Last year we played teams from Presidio, Coast and an LA team from scdsl that we’d never played before. (We also played 1 team that we could have played at their field or ours and only would have had to drive 5 minutes instead of Silverlakes)
 
jpeter said:
Good for them.

Times have changed CS is no longer the only game in town.

There tournments and championships for da, ecnl, npl, national leagues, etc. Usclub & ussda have higher level comp in some cases so while the state cup tournament is good for youngers who don't need to travel there are many more options & tournments for those that don't see the value of repeating tournments year after year with the same sets of teams
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Only two of their out-of-state games had anything to do with Cal South (ODP tournaments).
 
jpeter said:
Good for them.

Times have changed CS is no longer the only game in town.

There tournments and championships for da, ecnl, npl, national leagues, etc. Usclub & ussda have higher level comp in some cases so while the state cup tournament is good for youngers who don't need to travel there are many more options & tournments for those that don't see the value of repeating tournments year after year with the same sets of teams
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Don't the winners of SC and NC get to move on to some other tournament?
 
Multi Sport said:
Don't the winners of SC and NC get to move on to some other tournament?
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Yes at certain ages, divisions...

Can be a great time, $subside$ from CS for travel especially if get the dream location like hawaii this year. The Midwest not so much, but yes fun to go all the way at least once, even through the blowouts, after that team tends to wonder what's next?
 
jpeter said:
Now this: LA Galaxy OC West. A partnership between fcpremier87.com formerly Cypress Premier to merge? or affilate? with LA Galaxy OC to create another branch called: LA Galaxy OC West
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So when an FC Premier joins up with L.A. Galaxy OC, does that mean money is changing hands and guys like the tech director/lead coach at FC Premier are earning payouts from the Galaxy?
 
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