DA (Pilot) U16/G03 Rankings

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Since the DA site doesn't post rankings for this age group I'm sharing 'unofficial' DA Pilot U16 rankings I was sent on a group text by another soccer parent who is usually a trust-worthy source. I'm not savvy enough to know if they're accurate or not, just sharing.
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Speed said:
Does DA pilot=DPL pilot?
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I know it's lame. But I could not resist. :D
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This is just DPL right? the new "EGSL"? Other than patches and poweraid jugs at games, it's just the new label for the league under DA?
 
Slammerdad said:
This is just DPL right? the new "EGSL"? Other than patches and poweraid jugs at games, it's just the new label for the league under DA?
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No- these teams are playing as a pilot league in the DA system. Frontier and Southwest have single-age band 2003 teams. Next year, DA is expected to move to single age groups in all birth years except the oldest age group (next year that would be 01/02).
 
Slammerdad said:
This is just DPL right? the new "EGSL"? Other than patches and poweraid jugs at games, it's just the new label for the league under DA?
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SoCal GK mom said:
No- these teams are playing as a pilot league in the DA system. Frontier and Southwest have single-age band 2003 teams. Next year, DA is expected to move to single age groups in all birth years except the oldest age group (next year that would be 01/02).
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I don't understand how the answer is "no" to the questions posed.

According to their website, Surf has a DA, DPL and a SCDSL teams. Yet they have a team in "Pilot" table above. Which team below is the "Pilot" team?

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2003 G03 USSDA US Soccer Development Academy
G03 Surf DPL Development Player League
G03 Surf Academy Girls SCDSL
 
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GunninGopher said:
I don't understand how the answer is "no" to the questions posed.

According to their website, Surf has a DA, DPL and a SCDSL teams. Yet they have a team in "Pilot" table above. Which team below is the "Pilot" team?

Team League
2003 G03 USSDA US Soccer Development Academy
G03 Surf DPL Development Player League
G03 Surf Academy Girls SCDSL
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2003 - G03 USSDA is the Pilot team
 
GunninGopher said:
I don't understand how the answer is "no" to the questions posed.

According to their website, Surf has a DA, DPL and a SCDSL teams. Yet they have a team in "Pilot" table above. Which team below is the "Pilot" team?

Team League
2003 G03 USSDA US Soccer Development Academy
G03 Surf DPL Development Player League
G03 Surf Academy Girls SCDSL
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The DA Pilot (aka 2003 DA) is the first team you have listed. The DPL team is the second team. The SCDSL team is the third team. The rankings provided above in this thread are for the first team/ DA team, which is not the DPL team. US Soccer is not providing rankings on their website for DA Pilot teams, so the OP has kindly shared them for those interested. Sticking with Surf as the example, Surf's 2003 DA team is currently ranked number 1. If you're interested in the DPL rankings, they can be found here: http://primetimesportz.bonzidev.com/sam/standings/ss/schedule.php?v=3&divisionID=MjkxMTAz. Legends 03 DPL team currently tops the rankings there. Hope that helps!
 
SoCal GK mom said:
The DA Pilot (aka 2003 DA) is the first team you have listed. The DPL team is the second team. The SCDSL team is the third team. The rankings provided above in this thread are for the first team/ DA team, which is not the DPL team. US Soccer is not providing rankings on their website for DA Pilot teams, so the OP has kindly shared them for those interested. Sticking with Surf as the example, Surf's 2003 DA team is currently ranked number 1. If you're interested in the DPL rankings, they can be found here: http://primetimesportz.bonzidev.com/sam/standings/ss/schedule.php?v=3&divisionID=MjkxMTAz. Legends 03 DPL team currently tops the rankings there. Hope that helps!
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Oh. I see. There is no "DA Proper" for 2003.

Thanks for the explanation.
 
SoCal GK mom said:
No- these teams are playing as a pilot league in the DA system. Frontier and Southwest have single-age band 2003 teams. Next year, DA is expected to move to single age groups in all birth years except the oldest age group (next year that would be 01/02).
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Where is this information or what is the reliable source on this? There’s a reason why there are pilot divisions for the 03s, and with that only two divisions.

Most of the clubs across the country don’t want or don’t have the means for single band teams.

This “single-aged band” rumor seems nothing more than a tactic by entities to keep kids from looking at other options.
 
Josep said:
Where is this information or what is the reliable source on this? There’s a reason why there are pilot divisions for the 03s, and with that only two divisions.

Most of the clubs across the country don’t want or don’t have the means for single band teams.

This “single-aged band” rumor seems nothing more than a tactic by entities to keep kids from looking at other options.
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If ECNL can have single age band why can't DA? As for expense to the club, if the cost is approximately $2,800 per player with an 18 person roster that's $50k in revenue, how does that not pencil out as a positive for the club revenue wise? Serious question, not trying to be a smart a$$.
PS Yes, I am sure that it also plays into keeping the kids from looking elsewhere.
 
MyDaughtersAKeeper said:
If ECNL can have single age band why can't DA? As for expense to the club, if the cost is approximately $2,800 per player with an 18 person roster that's $50k in revenue, how does that not pencil out as a positive for the club revenue wise? Serious question, not trying to be a smart a$$.
PS Yes, I am sure that it also plays into keeping the kids from looking elsewhere.
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I don’t know the number of clubs between DA and ECNL, so i cant answer to your apples to apples question.

Perhaps this is the approach: many see it with a SoCal mindset (I’m only assuming where you’re from.). Many other regions do not have the depth of talent. It could be lack of the number of kids, or the minimal amount of kids willing to adhere to the DA rules (HS, amount of practices, travel, etc.). You also have income considerations.

The other thing from the club perspective is if the teams are all fully funded. That’s a big bill for single age bands. Someone here can correct me if I’m wrong, but Pats funds their DA program, but they do not fund the pilot DA. Perhaps some ECNL clubs are subsidized, but I believe most families pay.

Certainly for kids who want to play, single age would be better for them, although that does divide the scouts between more games.
 
MyDaughtersAKeeper said:
If ECNL can have single age band why can't DA? As for expense to the club, if the cost is approximately $2,800 per player with an 18 person roster that's $50k in revenue, how does that not pencil out as a positive for the club revenue wise? Serious question, not trying to be a smart a$$.
PS Yes, I am sure that it also plays into keeping the kids from looking elsewhere.
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Nets, balls and refs are expensive.
 
Canyon90 said:
Since the DA site doesn't post rankings for this age group I'm sharing 'unofficial' DA Pilot U16 rankings I was sent on a group text by another soccer parent who is usually a trust-worthy source. I'm not savvy enough to know if they're accurate or not, just sharing.
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Do you have an updated set of rankings? Would love to see it before FL. Thx!
 
I would think this has to be the least accurate rankings ever, seeing as the pilot teams for the most part are backup rosters for the 02-03. Players are up and down for games.

These really are just exhibitions games in training for 02-03 play.

What makes this even worse is the competition isn’t the same. In Florida, some teams play Frontier teams and some play teams in our own division.

It’s almost as bad as the cheap points many teams got last from having Burlingame on the schedule.
 
Josep said:
I would think this has to be the least accurate rankings ever, seeing as the pilot teams for the most part are backup rosters for the 02-03. Players are up and down for games.

These really are just exhibitions games in training for 02-03 play.

What makes this even worse is the competition isn’t the same. In Florida, some teams play Frontier teams and some play teams in our own division.

It’s almost as bad as the cheap points many teams got last from having Burlingame on the schedule.
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Do you have experience with the 03 DA teams? I'm curious how you are forming your opinions.
 
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