Quick offside question

I remember when the offside trap used to work the other way - the sweeper would take a couple of steps far enough to put the opposing striker offside just before the kick was taken. Having a set play that depends on cooperation and fore-knowledge of the officials seems a little dirty to me.

Why is it dirty? There is no violation of the LOTG. Is it dirty when players do not automatically give 10 yards on a free kick? The LOTG state that players are to give distance, but most don’t. It is all just gamesmanship and tactics.
 
I've been seeing this more and more as well. We try to drill into our players that a flag up doesn't mean to stop, and they need to continue to watch/engage players who were not in offside position ("OSP") when played until whistle is blown.

Anyone have any links to youtube showing this "trick" where you try to get defenders to stop playing with a blatantly OSP player?

The 1st and 9th (Messi) are the best. There is another really good one that used to be on the PRO site, but I will have to look for it.
 
The 1st and 9th (Messi) are the best. There is another really good one that used to be on the PRO site, but I will have to look for it.

Doesn't seem to be germane to the discussion about an offside player feinting a play, but not playing the ball.
 
Who said trick play?

What he was talking about was a player in an offside position that makes a feint at the ball and another inside player runs on to it.

I guess that difficult for you to grasp

Most of the most recent examples shown are players making it obvious they are not going to play the ball by stopping their run, backing away, or putting up their hands in a mock surrender motion.
 
Who said trick play?
I guess that difficult for you to grasp
I was the one asking for links:
I've been seeing this more and more as well. We try to drill into our players that a flag up doesn't mean to stop, and they need to continue to watch/engage players who were not in offside position ("OSP") when played until whistle is blown.

Anyone have any links to youtube showing this "trick" where you try to get defenders to stop playing with a blatantly OSP player?
What he was talking about was a player in an offside position that makes a feint at the ball and another inside player runs on to it.
Right, and very few of the examples show this. Most are just players that are not offside.
 
I was the one asking for links:

What he was talking about was a player in an offside position that makes a feint at the ball and another inside player runs on to it.
Right, and very few of the examples show this. Most are just players that are not offside.
but some do. which of course is the point.
 
Son's 05 team had an Early Flag offside call go against them yesterday from a 65+ ref (;)): 3 attackers heading into the play, referee calls one for being offside (not yet impacting play) before the 3rd one (the fastest) sweeps in to play the ball. Would have tied the game.
 
Son's 05 team had an Early Flag offside call go against them yesterday from a 65+ ref (;)): 3 attackers heading into the play, referee calls one for being offside (not yet impacting play) before the 3rd one (the fastest) sweeps in to play the ball. Would have tied the game.

"impacting play" is one of those referee judgement calls we have all come to love and respect.

Got a video?
 
Son's 05 team had an Early Flag offside call go against them yesterday from a 65+ ref (;)): 3 attackers heading into the play, referee calls one for being offside (not yet impacting play) before the 3rd one (the fastest) sweeps in to play the ball. Would have tied the game.

That is why referees need to wait and see what happens. My very good State ref AR raise the flag early on a ball headed toward the keeper with an offside player in pursuit. I ignored the flag and let the play proceed. Keeper got there first, sent the ball to the other half of the field, and player got a shot on goal. At halftime to my surprise the AR apologized to me for not letting the play develop.
 
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