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in hockey and baseball there’s retaliation. Would that be an appropriate if Stanford met N.C. again?

Makes one think twice about doing nasty unsportsmanlike like challenge when it will be given back by the other team for sure.
 
I just watched a clip of that. That was brutally ugly. I couldn't tell if the ref gave a card for that or even if he called a foul... anyone know?
Side note, Macario made the entire UNC defense look like a bunch of U littles on that last goal.
Terrible foul
The ref called a foul and issued a yellow
 
How is UCLA ranked below 9 ACC and 7 SEC schools when it had the best non-conference schedule in the country?

Not sure if you are being serious or taking a shot.

However, RPI works itself out by the end of the season. It is pretty irrelevant until mid-October.
 
MAP is right, RPI is not 100 percent accurate at this point. The PAC 12 will skyrocket them. Of the 7 games they have played, UCLA has 3 wins and a tie against teams that are normally in better shape at this point and they're all below .500 (LMU, SDSU, Pepperdine, Florida).
 
On the eve of pax12 play...I will continue to say don’t sleep on AZ. Colorado is decent but they haven’t played anyone. Cal has been smoked. WSU is for real Washington does not impress a ton. Stanford is the class followed by USC AND UCLA in that order. Pac-12 easily best conference in the country
 
Terrible foul
The ref called a foul and issued a yellow
I watched it carefully but could not tell if the defender got the ball, but it kind of looked like she did. I think Davidson could have played the ball to the player running toward the sideline, but chose to try to turn inside of the defender and then left the ball sitting in front of her left foot. While the injury is very unfortunate, I think Davidson's decision to try to dribble out of trouble instead of passing set up the scenario.
 
I watched it carefully but could not tell if the defender got the ball, but it kind of looked like she did. I think Davidson could have played the ball to the player running toward the sideline, but chose to try to turn inside of the defender and then left the ball sitting in front of her left foot. While the injury is very unfortunate, I think Davidson's decision to try to dribble out of trouble instead of passing set up the scenario.
All of that may be true, including the NC player getting a piece of the ball. But none of that changes the fact that this was a reckless slide at full speed into a player from a bad angle. With cleats clearly up. Straight red worthy, IMO.

When I played, the slide tackle was my favorite move. But I never went in with a slide tackle where the other player didn't see me coming. Always with the ball between the other player and me. Never with the player between me and the ball, even if I thought I could get a piece of the ball. And never ever with cleats up. You can slide tackle and still be responsible and careful. I'm not saying the NC player made a dirty play, but it was definitely done without care or concern for a player who she was blindsiding. A yellow is not a sufficient deterrent for such a play.
 
All of that may be true, including the NC player getting a piece of the ball. But none of that changes the fact that this was a reckless slide at full speed into a player from a bad angle. With cleats clearly up. Straight red worthy, IMO.

When I played, the slide tackle was my favorite move. But I never went in with a slide tackle where the other player didn't see me coming. Always with the ball between the other player and me. Never with the player between me and the ball, even if I thought I could get a piece of the ball. And never ever with cleats up. You can slide tackle and still be responsible and careful. I'm not saying the NC player made a dirty play, but it was definitely done without care or concern for a player who she was blindsiding. A yellow is not a sufficient deterrent for such a play.

The only fault I saw on the part of the NC player was the cleats up part. Davidson clearly saw the player coming in from roughly her 2 o'clock and chose to try to turn inside of her such that the were almost facing each other when the tackle happened. The slide was not from behind. Davidson had three touches on the ball, she could have passed or played it to the keeper on the second touch but instead chose to turn into pressure. It was definitely a yellow card, but I don't see the need to demonize the NC player.
 
The only fault I saw on the part of the NC player was the cleats up part. Davidson clearly saw the player coming in from roughly her 2 o'clock and chose to try to turn inside of her such that the were almost facing each other when the tackle happened. The slide was not from behind. Davidson had three touches on the ball, she could have passed or played it to the keeper on the second touch but instead chose to turn into pressure. It was definitely a yellow card, but I don't see the need to demonize the NC player.
Yes, passing the ball would cut down on the injuries big league.
 
The only fault I saw on the part of the NC player was the cleats up part. Davidson clearly saw the player coming in from roughly her 2 o'clock and chose to try to turn inside of her such that the were almost facing each other when the tackle happened. The slide was not from behind. Davidson had three touches on the ball, she could have passed or played it to the keeper on the second touch but instead chose to turn into pressure. It was definitely a yellow card, but I don't see the need to demonize the NC player.

In my opinion the tackle was reckless, dangerous and would fall under the “serious foul” description in the FIFA Rule 12. Coming in cleats up, late and arguably from the front are all very dangerous. Should have been a red card. How many touches Davidson had on the ball was/is irrelevant and should have had no bearing on the the decision.
 
Tierna's injury is exactly why studs up challenges are punished so severely. The result was a matter of physics (pounds per square inch of contact surface). If a 150-pound person steps on you with a flat sole that is 12 by 3 inches (36 square inches) the force at contact is a little more than 4 pounds per square inch. But if the contact is made with two studs (each 3/8 of an inch across), it's almost 125 pounds per square inch. Now consider the force of a player running full speed and then launching herself at an opponent cleats up.

It's amazing Tierna's foot remained attached to her leg.
 
The only fault I saw on the part of the NC player was the cleats up part. Davidson clearly saw the player coming in from roughly her 2 o'clock and chose to try to turn inside of her such that the were almost facing each other when the tackle happened. The slide was not from behind. Davidson had three touches on the ball, she could have passed or played it to the keeper on the second touch but instead chose to turn into pressure. It was definitely a yellow card, but I don't see the need to demonize the NC player.
This isn't demonizing the player:
I'm not saying the NC player made a dirty play, but it was definitely done without care or concern for a player who she was blindsiding.
If anything, I'm demonizing the ref. It's red-card worthy for the cleats up aspect alone.

Watching it again I can see where I was wrong about coming from the blindside. The second, lower camera angle made it look like she came from nowhere. But you're right, Davidson sees her.

Where I disagree with you on the yellow/red card issue is in the "reckless" aspect of the tackle. The reason Davidson cuts it back inside is because there is roughly 8 feet of open space between herself and the feet of the NC player at the moment the NC player leaves her feet for the tackle. Davidson is making that move because you wouldn't expect a player to launch into a slide from that distance. Why not? Because doing so would be reckless and dangerous. The NC player made up her mind she was going to slide in very early. Early enough to keep your toe pointed down and bend the leg with proper technique. Cleats up, knee locked, that's just not the way you do it. It was a bad, dangerous tackle and deserved a straight red. That doesn't make the player a bad person, and she probably feels terrible for injuring Davidson. But the best way to reduce these sorts of incidents is for the refs to give out reds when it happens. I would say so even if Davidson hadn't gotten her ankle broken.
 
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