jpeter
PREMIER
I dunno did you see the 2nd game Atlanta vs Galaxy. The coach is screaming all game long on everything, joysticking is no way to treat kids at this age IMO. The MX treams are like 4wins, 1L so far vs the ussda teams
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I dunno did you see the 2nd game Atlanta vs Galaxy. The coach is screaming all game long on everything, joysticking is no way to treat kids at this age IMO. The MX treams are like 4wins, 1L so far vs the ussda teams
Kante
PREMIER
Just saw that LAFC beat NYCFC 6-1 in the Man City Cup.
Maybe old news to most, but NYCFC is the #1 team in the Northeast USSDA group, and - assuming the full NYCFC team was present - a pretty good data point about how Socal compares to the Northeast group. And since NYCFC lost 1-2 to Philadelphia Union the #1 team in the Metro group. Don't want to extrapolate too much but also seems like a good data point for how Socal compares to Metro.
Maybe if LAFC can drop by FC Dallas as a layover on their way back from Concacaf, we could get a comparison with the last question mark group.
justneededaname
SILVER ELITE
Reminds me of this blog from a couple of years ago:
http://blog.3four3.com/2016/08/24/xolos-galaxy-u16-possession-soccer-development-environment/
mahrez
SILVER ELITE
No procession does'nt come to mind when watching this one (most connected passes where only to or w/ the backline / keeper) but at least a better effort from Galaxy however the MX sides are 6-0 so far vs Ussda teams.
Match report didn't mention anything related to procession:
http://subinternacional.ligamx.net/cancha/detallenoticia/26136/primeros-tres-puntos-para-galaxy
1 shot on goal both teams is described as boring soccer & the summary stats say it was basically even with Atlanta making 7 changes to the 4 for LA.
mahrez
SILVER ELITE
Good blog and yeah that posts does still ring ture today just as much or more as it did two years ago
Ilikefutbol
SILVER ELITE
Completely agree. Not sure how there’s a favorite over LAFC. +100 goal differential, did they even lose a game last year that didn’t involve PK’s?
Sure, LAFC is on top. Surf then follows, who by the way only lost 2 games (1 guess who beat them) last year....then I would assume Galaxy and then everyone else.
Like someone alluded to earlier...there isn't much competition at this age group. The split/expansion of SoCal makes it worse and is very disappointing for this age group. Coaching and training are key development requirements, but a huge factor is competition...competition that is consistent, weekend after weekend. The way it stands now, teams like LAFC are going to win 7-0, 10-0 every game with maybe an occasional tough game. I could easily see them and Surf go undefeated this year...which helps no one.
Again, just disappointed in the DA and the way they have structured this age group in SoCal.
mahrez
SILVER ELITE
JUNIORS TAMPICO VS LAFC finals for Concacaf u13 starts 10am
https://www.concacaf.com/en/champions-league-under-13s-boys/video/scclu13-juniors-tampico-vs-lafc
https://www.concacaf.com/en/champions-league-under-13s-boys/video/scclu13-juniors-tampico-vs-lafc
PaytoplayinLancaster?
SILVER
Congrats to you guys. That team is very good and it’s great to see a lot of so Cal teams doing very well against international competition lately. Hopefully you guys can use your MLS clout, connections, and money to bring international teams for an academy level tournament in Southern California. The trade off would be that we learn from the best around, and they get a world class vacation and some soccer.
Wez
DA
Great idea!
mahrez
SILVER ELITE
Thanks first north American team to be SCCLU13 champions, will be honored at the home game soon.
Yes...
LAFC Academy Hosts MLS, Mexican Teams In Friendly Tournament At UCLA
https://www.lafc.com/post/2018/08/23/academy-hosts-mls-mexican-teams-friendly-tournament-ucla
The LAFC Academy is hosting some of the best sides from MLS and Mexico in a friendly tournament Aug. 25-27 on the UCLA campus.
Kante
PREMIER
Will be interesting to see. LAFC u14 is going with just 16 players in 2018-19, down from 20 in 2017-18, with five players from LAFC 2017-18 going elsewhere (maybe TFA). LAFC looked solid in Concacaf but LA group may offer better some competition.
Here's data on the 2017-18 and 2018-19 rosters. The only theme that sort of stands out is that the players who went elsewhere don't look like they had quite the same commit to defending - check goal allowed #'s below - as the players who stayed. But, these things are relative since LAFC allowed, on average, less than one goal per game.
The one player that LAFC added played with Ramos at BF310 in 2017-18 before Ramos joined LAFC. Would assume the new player is solid.
By way of quick explanation for the table below, Goals Scored by Team per 70 minutes played by player is the # of goals scored by LAFC when a particular player was on the field divided by the total number of minutes the player played multiplied by 70. Same methodology for Goals Allowed by Team per 70. Very similar to NBA player +/- stat. If there's questions, let me know and I can explain more.
Are you sure this is the final roster? I know a lot of clubs are still shuffling players around.
Kante
PREMIER
Fair point. It's been static for about ten days, but, yeah, may still be updated. We'll see. In your experience, should rosters be final by Friday since first game of season will be Saturday?
This spreadsheet isn't particularly useful or meaningful , especially since the number of goals scored while you're on the field can be affected by a variety of factors that can't be measured by simple numbers.
Goals against, if you're a defender or goalkeeper is probably more meaningful.
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Kante
PREMIER
Agreed that the goals scored can be affected by a variety of factors, including luck. However, when averaged over the season, the goals scored numbers point to something that is likely meaningful.
Two examples:
1) LAFC scored 5.9 goals per 70 minutes that Ramos plays, and Ramos himself scores 2.6 of those goals per 70.
Could interesting/meaningful to look at team goals per 70 when a player is on field minus player goals per 70 to ID players who contribute to goals scored but don't score goals themselves.
2) Salazar from 2017-18 LAFC had 6.54 team goals per 70 minutes that he played, but only had .83 player goals directly scored per 70, so he may have been a big indirect contributor - i.e. assists - to LAFC offense in 2017-18.
However, Salazar also had just over 500 minutes across 23 games played, and just one start, despite the 6.54 team goals per 70 number. So LAFC obviously did not see him as core player. To be fair, there's likely lots of reasons for this, including that the team just happened to score more in the situations when Salazar was on the field (eg, for example, maybe he only played against weaker teams). I get that correlation is not causation.
However, a pet peeve of mine is the subjective, often opaque nature of a lot of the "soccer" decision making by teams and coaches. Reminds me of the Moneyball movie where the scouts were talking about baseball players. "He's no good. Got no confidence. Ugly girlfriend."
Figuring out key, meaningful metrics to look at and make broadly visible - other than goals scored per game by individual players which is what is tracked right now - would probably help everybody... players, parents and teams.
Two examples:
1) LAFC scored 5.9 goals per 70 minutes that Ramos plays, and Ramos himself scores 2.6 of those goals per 70.
Could interesting/meaningful to look at team goals per 70 when a player is on field minus player goals per 70 to ID players who contribute to goals scored but don't score goals themselves.
2) Salazar from 2017-18 LAFC had 6.54 team goals per 70 minutes that he played, but only had .83 player goals directly scored per 70, so he may have been a big indirect contributor - i.e. assists - to LAFC offense in 2017-18.
However, Salazar also had just over 500 minutes across 23 games played, and just one start, despite the 6.54 team goals per 70 number. So LAFC obviously did not see him as core player. To be fair, there's likely lots of reasons for this, including that the team just happened to score more in the situations when Salazar was on the field (eg, for example, maybe he only played against weaker teams). I get that correlation is not causation.
However, a pet peeve of mine is the subjective, often opaque nature of a lot of the "soccer" decision making by teams and coaches. Reminds me of the Moneyball movie where the scouts were talking about baseball players. "He's no good. Got no confidence. Ugly girlfriend."
Figuring out key, meaningful metrics to look at and make broadly visible - other than goals scored per game by individual players which is what is tracked right now - would probably help everybody... players, parents and teams.
Speaking of rosters there are still 4-5 teams without one posted. It’s possible the game reports will post before it.
jpeter
PREMIER
Don't get too caught up in last year's stats, rosters, etc. Ever season is different players come & go , rise and fall, grow and get better. Time will tell but normally the training & talent will shine through in the long term.
Some will get off to a hot start and others will take a while to gel, in the end I always like to see the progress and how well there doing near the breaks after they played some games.
Some will get off to a hot start and others will take a while to gel, in the end I always like to see the progress and how well there doing near the breaks after they played some games.