Just read that the U-15’s were outplayed by Mexico almost the entire game, especially in the midfield, then they out scored México 3-0 in overtime. See ECNL thread (DA and ECNL). That does not sound promising to say the least.
U20 WWC
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Just read that the U-15’s were outplayed by Mexico almost the entire game, especially in the midfield, then they out scored México 3-0 in overtime. See ECNL thread (DA and ECNL). That does not sound promising to say the least.
oh canada
GOLD
maybe the U20s are just non-technical "leftovers" from the old school way of development? u15s have quite a few skilled players it appears. Agree still seems to be an emphasis on the most mature players at the younger ages. That's short sighted. Goal should be to develop the girls with most potential for the WNT. Long term.
At least they're in the tourneys. Canada didn't even make the trip.
At least they're in the tourneys. Canada didn't even make the trip.
MakeAPlay
DA
Because Canada fast tracks there best to their full WNT. Fleming is the best midfielder in the world and the US has nobody at any age in their youth national team system like her that I have seen.
The US sent their U14 team to the Concacaf U15 tournament and had a few U13 players on the team as well. Mexico did not completely outplay them in fact their goal keeper made some amazing saves to keep them in the game. The 20 min OT was completely dominated by the US. Mexico had their keeper punt it every play while the US played out of the back the entire game. There is some serious talent in that 04 age group.
oh canada
GOLD
Very true re fast tracking MAP. Fleming would def keep a player or two off the USA team if American. We're glad she's not dual.
As for the u15 game - folks can watch for themselves here: https://www.concacaf.com/en/under-15-girls/video/united-states-vs-mexico
My objective eye sees the Mexicans outplaying the Americans in regulation with better skill and a high press. USA has more speed but can't get the ball through midfield and a lot of heavy touches from the forwards when they do. Mexico very relaxed on the ball without the speed and get around USA defenders a lot more than the opposite. USA plays the ball back way too much. USA lucky it goes to overtime but give them credit for outlasting a better (today) Mexican team.
Suffice to say Mexico's girls youth program has caught up with USA's.
As for the u15 game - folks can watch for themselves here: https://www.concacaf.com/en/under-15-girls/video/united-states-vs-mexico
My objective eye sees the Mexicans outplaying the Americans in regulation with better skill and a high press. USA has more speed but can't get the ball through midfield and a lot of heavy touches from the forwards when they do. Mexico very relaxed on the ball without the speed and get around USA defenders a lot more than the opposite. USA plays the ball back way too much. USA lucky it goes to overtime but give them credit for outlasting a better (today) Mexican team.
Suffice to say Mexico's girls youth program has caught up with USA's.
I do think at this age 14 year olds vs 15 yr olds from Mexico should be taken in to account as well. Two of the US starters were U13 playing 2 yrs up.
Stop making excuses, we hate it when other countries do it to us, so stop. How do you know Mexico’s were also not youngers?
I’ll give you that Mexico’s players looked more physically mature, but that is beside the point. So far I’ve only seen the first 30 minutes and it looked pretty even to me, slight edge to Mexico. That is the point!
Based on the nother number of girls singing the Mexican national anthem, I theorize that only 2 were Mexican-American players from the USA. Previously you’d see at least half the team made up of Mexican-Americans, and even then the games weren’t really that close. Just the fact that Mexico was going toe to toe with the USA on the girls side is eye-opening.
The world is catching up fast!
Post match twitter opinion from Keith Costigan if you can read the thread good stuff imo
Check out @KeithCostigan’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/KeithCostigan/status/1029130748471664641?s=09
Check out @KeithCostigan’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/KeithCostigan/status/1029130748471664641?s=09
texanincali
SILVER ELITE
US Coach is an absolute idiot. She player her best player out wide on the left for the entire match and she hardly got a touch. As for what happened in extra time, that player was moved to the middle and dictated the entire flow, while scoring 2.
Because several of the starters on the Mexican team play for clubs in SoCal and are 03s. That's what makes this discussion so funny.
El Clasico
GOLD
Are we still talking about the U15 team?
A few of them are from Albion I believe.
What’s your take, it’s not clear to me at least? Did you read my entire post, because that was more of a rhetorical question?
Don’t we want the world to catch up? Everyone acts like OMG...we lost, or we got out played. GOOD!!! I want to see the Women’s game grow. I want our women’s teams to face adversity! I think what is broken about the US System is the infatuation with NCAA. That is a result of not having any other careers path in the game that can support a living wage. That is what really sucks! I’m happy to see that the EU Clubs are investing in the Women’s Games. It gives our DD’s a more robust path of opportunities.
You go global game! Build, grow, prosper!!! Because I know as you do, my DD’s and thousands of others will follow!!!!
You go global game! Build, grow, prosper!!! Because I know as you do, my DD’s and thousands of others will follow!!!!
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
U20 World Cup Final is between Japan and Spain. The loss to Japan and tie to Spain for the US team should no longer be viewed so harshly.
MakeAPlay
DA
Getting out of pool play is the absolute minimum expectation for a US team at ANY level. We have to agree on that.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
I agree but the fact they lost and tied to the two finalists is much different then not getting out of pool play against weak teams.
MakeAPlay
DA
Again at the absolute minimum they need to get out of pool play. We are the richest country with the 4th largest population. Both games were winnable had the team been better. Being better is within the control of the federation. They pick the coaches who in turn pick and coach the players. Had either of those things been better the US would be in the final.
Continued good fortune to you and your player.
While I put ZERO weight into how our youth teams do at the youth World Cups because of all the intangible factors that go into it. I think ultimately the size of the US does create a logistical challenge that works against us with youth. If the Youth National team is true to its word and focuses primarily on the DA girls, we will never have the "best" talent our country can produce on the YNT's because there will always be talent that refuses to give up a well-rounded teenage life (reference to HS soccer) in favor of a sport that has no economic future ... just college.
Ultimately, the YNT doesn't practice as a team for any appreciable length of time, they get called into camp, spend a few weekends or weeks together at various times of the year and are sent back to go play with their clubs. They are learning each other when they are thrown into the crucible of competition as 13, 14, 16, 19 year olds. We should give these kids a break, the system isn't designed to build the best team, rather, an All-Star team according some some coach's subjective judgement.
MakeAPlay
DA
I agree with you, however, we still have managed to get out of group play prior to this year. The only reason that we are still able to compete at the full WNT level is because of our minor league system AKA NCAA D1 Soccer. Without the tireless dedication of the college coaches in this country we would be up $hit creek because the federation isn’t doing anything productive for developing talent.