In an ECNL/GDA matchup, what substitution rules will they be using? Anybody know?
DA and ECNL
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Bruddah IZ
DA
In an effort to further player development and deepen the player pool from which elite players are developed, the Elite Clubs National League introduced “Composite Events” for ECNL member clubs beginning in the 2015-16 season. These new and unique events are established to provide players from ECNL Member Clubs with additional competition structures for mixed age group teams, teams competing in non-traditional seasons, and for other development purposes.
The 2017-18 ECNL competition season will include one Composite Event
http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/composite-events-17-18/
ECNL teams can plan GDA teams in the tournaments as long as the teams play with GDA substitution rules. And GDA teams can only play in tournaments with GDA substitution rules.
Multivitamin
BRONZE
Rumor Mill - Real Colorado GDA next to go ALL IN ECNL.
Don't shoot the messenger.
Don't shoot the messenger.
GoWest
GOLD
Thanks. Similar to 'bio-banding' then being it is across age groups? Introduced in ECNL 2015, interesting. I had heard of it in prior discussions. What then is ECNL II?
GoWest
GOLD
Why would any non-GDA team desire to play a GDA team in a college showcase then given the strict substitution rules? Meaningless as far as league schedule goes and counterintuitive with regard to it being a college (please notice me and recruit me) showcase?
outside!
DA
Once again, I was not talking about when ECNL was formed, I was talking about the last 2-3 years. In the last 2-3 years Beach, Legends and Carlsbad had teams that could compete (compete, not beat) with any ECNL team. In my DD's age group both Legends and Carlsbad had teams that could beat the Surf ECNL team. DD's team beat Surf's defending ECNL National Champions team at Surf Cup 2-0. At the time I was very familiar with the Surf roster and they were playing their starters in case someone tries to trot out the BS "Oh they weren't really trying to win" trope. Note that even though DD's team played in many Surf Thanksgiving tournaments after that Surf Cup win, for some reason they were never scheduled to play Surf.
I did not say that. I said they there is no reason for SoCal teams to travel out of state for LEAGUE games. Showcases and national championship tournaments are not LEAGUE games and are worth traveling for.
ECNL has many positives attributes as does GDA. They also have their negatives, one of which for SoCal players is out of state travel for league games when there is equivalent or better competition available locally that cannot play each other due to the power struggles of the so called adults fighting over turf. The recent history of ECNL in SoCal also indicates that ECNL leadership was either conspiring with the local ECNL clubs to limit local competition, or they were ignorant of how the local situation had changed since the time that ECNL was formed. Before GDA was formed, ECNL should have added Beach, Legends and Carlsbad to the SouthWest division and moved the out of SoCal teams to another division. If they had done that, GDA might have had a much tougher time gaining traction in SoCal. After GDA was formed, ECNL was forced to add clubs like Sharks to try to maintain market share. Now ECNL is strong arming clubs (and GDA has been all along), instead of working together for good of the players.
Agreed. My player's team is going to Silverlakes with a roster of 17. With those restrictive substitution rules, at least 1 player on the roster will not see the field each game. All of the other non-starters will likely see less playing time than they normally would get for other showcases/tournaments. Doesn't see to be the ideal scenario to play against a GDA team under those rules IMO.
True. I'm just letting you know the rule. I don't think GDA cares whether non-GDA teams desire to play GDA teams in a college
Why would anyone play on team where they rely on liberal substitution rules to get on the field?
That's why many GDA teams have smaller rosters.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
DA relaxed the sub rules for all age group this coming year except the 01/00 group. They will allow 7 subs instead of 5. This past season they allowed 7 subs in the showcases. 5 subs in league.
GoWest
GOLD
Yeah, I getcha and appreciate the info on the rule.
Define 'liberal substitution rule'...? Personally, I have no problem with ECNL or GDA substitution rules in league play. It's the 'college showcase' piece where IMHO substitution rules that limit rostered players (up to 18 on the bench for my tastes but whatever works) from seeing the pitch is simply counterintuitive.
Screw logic, it’s all about the bragging rights and smack talk brotha!
GoWest
GOLD
LOL! I'm all in!
MakeAPlay
DA
Other than the starters without liberal substitution rules only 13 players would play 95% of the time. Your question is sort of like asking why anyone would play on a team that they aren’t a starter on. Personally I would rather have my kid come off the bench at Duke than be a starter at South Alabama.
It's easy for you to say that now. Our college search included an estimate of how long it might take to make the starting team.
MakeAPlay
DA
When we were going through the search process she narrowed it down to 3 schools regardless of her soccer situation. We were just fortunate that they all had her at the top of their list at her position and all of them expected her to start as a freshman. Her position helped because it is non glamorous but critical to national championship contenders.
Dos Equis
GOLD
In a college showcase, the goal is to get the girls playing time in front of the colleges they are interested in, whenever that coach decides to show up. Some college coaches give club coaches warning, so a coach can plan ahead. Many do not.
Why would anyone think honoring an arbitrary substitution rule that does not reflect college rules is a good idea in a college showcase? Do these results matter?
Sorry... I mean the Silverlakes schedules.