DPL-Pilot Teams

SocalPapa said:
According to this just-released map, Surf DID lose ECNL for the coming season. http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/2018/07/03/the-girls-ecnl-announces-2018-2019-membership/
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Apparently he wasn't trolling.

Interesting that Surf is out. What exactly do they tell their ECNL teams? As a parent I would be pretty disappointed running my kid by ECNL tryouts...making the team...and then finding out...oh wait we are not doing ECNL, but see you in DPL.
 
Desert Hound said:
Apparently he wasn't trolling.

Interesting that Surf is out. What exactly do they tell their ECNL teams? As a parent I would be pretty disappointed running my kid by ECNL tryouts...making the team...and then finding out...oh wait we are not doing ECNL, but see you in DPL.
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Agreed. A much bigger impact on the players than BH's girls not playing in DPL-pilot. I would be furious too.
 
Desert Hound said:
Apparently he wasn't trolling.

Interesting that Surf is out. What exactly do they tell their ECNL teams? As a parent I would be pretty disappointed running my kid by ECNL tryouts...making the team...and then finding out...oh wait we are not doing ECNL, but see you in DPL.
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Hmmmm looks like I was correct AGAIN!!
2x’s
 
Easy @Cream puff, you have 11 posts (at least 2 of which are bragging about your other posts). So far you've passed on some rumors that turned out to be (somewhat) correct. That's great. Keep it coming and you will earn your desired trust.
 
Cream puff said:
Your right I’m only going off rumors.. just trying to get some answers if it’s true... stop jumping down my throat!! This is a blog to raise questions and get answers to what is real or not.. and btw.. the surf rumor came from a Good source... BTW they are loosing ECNL... just the following year.
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You yourself said they were just rumors and spreading crap does not help anyone without facts to back it up.
 
Fact said:
You yourself said they were just rumors and spreading crap does not help anyone without facts to back it up.Eye Roll... I had very good sources... and this is a blog to confirm rumors.. this is just confirmed- 2 weeks later ... I have more... but will not share until it’s fact. If that will make you happy.
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I had very good sources... this is a blog to either confirm or dispel rumors. This is now confirmed.
I have more but will wait till it is fact.
This new season of soccer is ever changing.
 
I am very entertained by some of the team titles of those with dual teams - Eclipse has "solar" and "lunar" (very creative), Concorde fire has "platinum" and "premier" (should have been "charcoal" and " wood" in my opinion) and Michigan Hawks and Michigan Hawks Black (not so creative)
 
Cream puff said:
I had very good sources... this is a blog to either confirm or dispel rumors. This is now confirmed.
I have more but will wait till it is fact.
This new season of soccer is ever changing.
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Was your source with ECNL or Surf since it appears that not even Surf knew this would happen?
 
cerebro de fútbol said:
No one disputes that Blues was originally part of the 03 Pilot Program and then kicked out. The question is why? It cant be because of a lack of talent of the girls remaining on BH's Pilot team because they are being recruited by the other Pilot teams remaining in the program. This decision was not made with one iota of a thought for the girls and their families impacted by it. The decision appears to be motivated by animus towards BH/AR or the Blues. The decision to kick Blues out of the Pilot program after they were originally a part of it speaks volumes about the legitimacy of the DPL (who made the decision) and the Pilot Program

I hope you realize your Club put you in this situation for 2-3 months stringing you and talented players along...
If your a “ALL IN” DA club you get pilot.
Blues was never getting pilot because of ECNL and Blues new it when they got kicked out and stung you along.
Sorry Mate you drink the cool aid!
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cerebro de fútbol said:
No one disputes that Blues was originally part of the 03 Pilot Program and then kicked out. The question is why? It cant be because of a lack of talent of the girls remaining on BH's Pilot team because they are being recruited by the other Pilot teams remaining in the program. This decision was not made with one iota of a thought for the girls and their families impacted by it. The decision appears to be motivated by animus towards BH/AR or the Blues. The decision to kick Blues out of the Pilot program after they were originally a part of it speaks volumes about the legitimacy of the DPL (who made the decision) and the Pilot Program itself.
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I hope you realize your Club put you in this situation for 2-3 months stringing you and talented players along...
If your a “ALL IN” DA club you get pilot.
Blues was never getting pilot because of ECNL and Blues new it when they got kicked out.
Sorry Mate you drink the cool aid!
 
Surf gambled and ECNL decided they didn't want half in clubs.

Blues are more if not all in ECNL and some clubs like the ones that run DPL don't like that thus keeping them out of pilot.

Slammers said the heck with all this and decided to focus on ECNL only for the next season.

In the end we have three different orgs fighting among themselves which really doesn't help, politics as usual takes over, more dilution happens, another league overshot (discovery) is created and now we have (5) different orgs all doing things there way differently without consistency or even a common way of training or playing, what a mess.
 
cerebro de fútbol said:
No one disputes that Blues was originally part of the 03 Pilot Program and then kicked out. The question is why? It cant be because of a lack of talent of the girls remaining on BH's Pilot team because they are being recruited by the other Pilot teams remaining in the program. This decision was not made with one iota of a thought for the girls and their families impacted by it. The decision appears to be motivated by animus towards BH/AR or the Blues. The decision to kick Blues out of the Pilot program after they were originally a part of it speaks volumes about the legitimacy of the DPL (who made the decision) and the Pilot Program itself.
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In my opinion, every DA club should have the option to have a Pilot Team "IF" they are using it to roster the "majority" of their 03 current Da players. Isn't this the only "reason & purpose" for the creation of "03 Pilot"? If a Club uses it for any other reason they shouldn't be entitled to have a Pilot Team. Someone should have placed "boundaries" around Pilot and said something like "80% of the current 03 Da Team must be rostered on the Pilot Team", if not, there is no need for a Pilot Team on that particular club. Do we know for certain that every Pilot Team will have the majority 03 current Da players? If so great, Pilot will be competitive and successful and maybe other age groups will follow suit in the future if the dual ages continue in Da.
 
TigresFan said:
In my opinion, every DA club should have the option to have a Pilot Team "IF" they are using it to roster the "majority" of their 03 current Da players. Isn't this the only "reason & purpose" for the creation of "03 Pilot"? If a Club uses it for any other reason they shouldn't be entitled to have a Pilot Team. Someone should have placed "boundaries" around Pilot and said something like "80% of the current 03 Da Team must be rostered on the Pilot Team", if not, there is no need for a Pilot Team on that particular club. Do we know for certain that every Pilot Team will have the majority 03 current Da players? If so great, Pilot will be competitive and successful and maybe other age groups will follow suit in the future if the dual ages continue in Da.
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@TigresFan,

The premise of your opinion is that the DPL serves a purpose for the DA and the Federation/DA Club should attempt to foster and ensure the competitiveness of the DPL. I can appreciate why a parent would think this, I can also appreciate why the DPL clubs/program would attempt to mislead parents into believing this ... (hint ... they want your $$$).

Please consider that the Federation has established a pyramid of player identification. The entire purpose of the DA to aid the federation in identifying the "unicorn" players (super-elite) and creating an environment where the super-elite and the elite players can play in a league. The super-elite (aka unicorns) are truly the only players the Federation really cares about. These girls are invited to the Youth National Camps and have D1 full-ride scholarship offers by their Freshman year. The other girls are necessary to support the clubs and league. The super-elite dominate their age group (U16) and are super-stars the age group ahead of them (U17) and can hold their own two ages up. These are the only girls/players the Federation has its eye on.

This is why the Federation has composite age groups. U16/U17, and U18/U19. It has absolutely no need to keep U16's that can't compete with U17's in the program. Composite groups allow the Federation to cull those kids from the program. The DPL is an affront to this and is tolerated by the Federation because on the girls side, there is no U13 or U12 level (yet).

Please also consider that for girls, virtually every player has gone through puberty and represents their genetic adult bodytype by 15 (U16). Boys are later. An 03 DPL team will be made up of girls that the Federation really has no interest in and no longer belong because if they did, they could easily win on spot on the composite 03/02 team.

Ultimately, the DPL is and never will be a DA program. Its simply "just another league" along with CSL, SCDSL, Presidio/SDDA, ECNL, NPL, National League, etc. However, because the DPL is "sold" as connected to the DA teams as the "farm system" its competitiveness is inconsequential. Placing boundaries around the DPL team would deviate from the DA's goals of culling players as they get older.

Accept the DPL for what it is ... just another league for the non-elite players and you will be much, much happier.
 
I have reflected upon my dd's experience with DPL and why I have been a proponent of it and have some thoughts to offer.

In hindsight, the only value I see to playing DPL over any other league is if you can position yourself to getting significant playing time in the DA in the future. Playing DA or ECNL is where you want to be due to the tremendous amount of college coaches that watch these teams play. If you dd has been place on a DPL team you better hope for one of two things. First, your new to the club and the coaches have not had a chance to fully evaluate your kid. You know they belong on the DA team and playing DPL will give them a chance to prove themselves. I have seen this play out in a very few cases. Second, your kids is an 03 and will be one of the top 3 or 4 players on the Pilot DPL team. Remember next year they will be competing for a spot with the 03's already on the DA, the top 04's currently playing DA that will make the team, and the rest of the 03's and 04's.

Also remember that there is a decent chance that the best player or two on your DPL team will get chance to at least DP if not get called up to the DA. This will weaken your DPL team. So if your kids is not one of the above players and you have a top Flight 1 or Premier team in your area I would recommend that path. DPL really only benefits the few unique kids that can use it as a path to substantial DA playing time.
 
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Simisoccerfan said:
I have reflected upon my dd's experience with DPL and why I have been a proponent of it and have some thoughts to offer.

In hindsight, the only value I see to playing DPL over any other league is if you can position yourself to getting significant playing time in the DA in the future. Playing DA or ECNL is where you want to be due to the tremendous amount of college coaches that watch these teams play. If you dd has been place on a DPL team you better hope for one of two things. First, your new to the club and the coaches have not had a chance to fully evaluate your kid. You know they belong on the DA team and playing DPL will give them a chance to prove themselves. I have seen this play out in a very few cases. Second, your kids is an 03 and will be one of the top 3 or 4 players on the Pilot DPL team. Remember next year they will be competing for a spot with the 03's already on the DA, the top 04's currently playing DA that will make the team, and the rest of the 03's and 04's.

Also remember that there is a decent chance that the best player or two on your DPL team will get chance to at least DP if not get called up to the DA. This will weaken your DPL team. So if your kids is not one of the above players and you have a top Flight 1 or Premier team in your area I would recommend that path. DPL really only benefits the few unique kids that can use it as a path to substantial DA playing time.
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These are valuable insights. Congratulations to your player. Good luck!
 
Speaking of DPL, I was impressed by Beach's U15 DPL team winning the National Cup Far West Regional last week. And Real So Cal's U16 DPL team made the semi's (losing on PKs to the eventual regional champion). Good showing.

Of course, So Cal teams in general did well. CDA Slammers FC HB 00 won their regional, as did Rebels 2001 Elite, Arsenal's U14's, and San Diego Surf 05 Academy Select. There were only 2 regional championships we didn't win: U16 and U19.
 
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