2018-2019 SW ECNL Conference Discussion

zags77 said:
So what does the SW divison look like now?

1. Arizona Arsenal
2. Arsenal
3. Blues
4. DMC Sharks
5. Heat
6. LA Breakers
7. LAFC Slammers
8. Phoneix Rising
9. SD Surf
10. Slammers FC
11. Strikers

Who will be the 12th club added?
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They need another ECNL club in Vegas. IDK if that market can support another?
 
zags77 said:
So what does the SW divison look like now?

1. Arizona Arsenal
2. Arsenal
3. Blues
4. DMC Sharks
5. Heat
6. LA Breakers
7. LAFC Slammers
8. Phoneix Rising
9. SD Surf
10. Slammers FC
11. Strikers

Who will be the 12th club added?
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Slammers got 2 teams would Blues or Surf get 2 ecnl teams if forced to choose one league over the other?
 
ToonArmy said:
Slammers got 2 teams would Blues or Surf get 2 ecnl teams if forced to choose one league over the other?
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If Surf got creative with the West Coast takeover probably but would have to file some paperwork to make it so. Surf is in a quandary IMHO. Really aren't showing "all they were" in either league, no? For those folks that list dilution as a top talking point ...well it would seem Surf would be the poster child? I don't follow all age groups so maybe I'm off-base here?

Blues ... hmmmmmm, I think the LAFC Slammers announcement to go 'all-in ECNL' may have some effect on a decision. US Soccer will do whatever they can at this point to keep them but SoCal clubs have a mind of their own irrespective of the dictates of US Soccer GDA or ECNL IMHO.
 
GoWest said:
If Surf got creative with the West Coast takeover probably but would have to file some paperwork to make it so. Surf is in a quandary IMHO. Really aren't showing "all they were" in either league, no? For those folks that list dilution as a top talking point ...well it would seem Surf would be the poster child? I don't follow all age groups so maybe I'm off-base here?

Blues ... hmmmmmm, I think the LAFC Slammers announcement to go 'all-in ECNL' may have some effect on a decision. US Soccer will do whatever they can at this point to keep them but SoCal clubs have a mind of their own irrespective of the dictates of US Soccer GDA or ECNL IMHO.
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Is there a possiblity that a SW ECNL club leaves ECNL to make it a 10 team league? Maybe US soccer sweetens the pot to Surf and offers 2 DA slots.....one in SD and another in the OC to fill the void of Slammers?
 
zags77 said:
Is there a possiblity that a SW ECNL club leaves ECNL to make it a 10 team league? Maybe US soccer sweetens the pot to Surf and offers 2 DA slots.....one in SD and another in the OC to fill the void of Slammers?
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Probably. Seems one makes a move and the other counters.

ECNL has regained major elite clubs 'all-in' in most major markets now. LAFC Slammers in the SoCal market is huge (did NorCal resist GDA? I recall reading something about that on here months ago) so I could see GDA eager to counter even with another low performing Albion-like club just to even the odds? Only takes one major departure in a major market and .....now I really wonder if Blues ends up 'all-in' sooner than later or dives into GDA full speed ahead?

Up next: Are GDA departures in the NW and Texas leagues on the horizon?
 
Will be great around this time next year when Pats or West Coast/OC Surf claim that they are the SW division DA champs. Everyone will pile on talking about dilution.

If ECNL wanted to really shake things up- they’d offer some kind of promotion/relegation for individual teams or whole clubs to gain entry each year.
 
push_up said:
Arizona ECNL teams as a whole are absolutely going to be destroyed by Socal next year. Socal teams should refuse to travel to Arizona. The AZ dilution will be incredible. Two ECNL teams, two DA teams, and two DPL teams in small geographical area. Retards like Desert Fool think it won't happen. Lol. It is going to be ugly and funny at the same time.

This year AZ has one DA and one ECNL club and outside of the u18/19s both clubs are bottom third in their respective divisions.
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Can't quite agree with you on your stats. SC Del Sol 03's are currently in the DA Playoffs this week, so obviously faired well enough to qualify for that, and the 04's had a decent run of it despite quite a bit of injury and sickness second half of the season, they still finished 6th or 7th out of 14. The only age group that didn't do well was U16/17.
Agreed, adding another DA for next year waters things down a bit; it allows girls to play DA that otherwise would never have made the cut.
 
The issue is going to be timing, I think. If DA clubs like Surf or Blues are wavering on DA and considering a possible "ALL IN" ECNL move in the future, they might prefer to wait another year to see how it all shakes out, BUT if ECNL fills the SW out to 12 clubs by adding a different big name club right away, it's going to get crowded really fast and tougher to do that next year.
 
Mystery Train said:
The issue is going to be timing, I think. If DA clubs like Surf or Blues are wavering on DA and considering a possible "ALL IN" ECNL move in the future, they might prefer to wait another year to see how it all shakes out, BUT if ECNL fills the SW out to 12 clubs by adding a different big name club right away, it's going to get crowded really fast and tougher to do that next year.
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Humbly, I disagree. This is because Blues and Surf are already 2 of the 11 SW ECNL clubs so it wouldn't get anymore crowded if they went "all in" next year and brought their top squads back. Furthermore, regions like the NW have 14 (maybe 16) clubs now so there is definitely room for 1-3 new clubs in the SW division.

EDIT- hang on, just read more of the thread. Are we saying they may allow two teams from both Surf and Blues? That would be very odd.
 
For Clubs that are "ALL IN" with ECNL - where will their 2nd teams play? Will we see a revitalized SCDSL Flight 1? Or will they try to form some made up "DPL" league to close the league even further?
Is SCDSL Discovery League still in play?
 
futboldad1 said:
EDIT- hang on, just read more of the thread. Are we saying they may allow two teams from both Surf and Blues? That would be very odd.
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Yeah, that was brought up, and was what I was thinking of when I made that point. Still, you're right that either Blues or Surf will no doubt have a home in which ever league they choose so it's maybe not as urgent as I made that sound.
 
Driveandpay said:
Can't quite agree with you on your stats. SC Del Sol 03's are currently in the DA Playoffs this week, so obviously faired well enough to qualify for that, and the 04's had a decent run of it despite quite a bit of injury and sickness second half of the season, they still finished 6th or 7th out of 14. The only age group that didn't do well was U16/17.
Agreed, adding another DA for next year waters things down a bit; it allows girls to play DA that otherwise would never have made the cut.
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I stand by my prediction. There will always the exceptional team. I am talking about AZ dilution as a whole. We do not have enough above average players to remain competitive.
 
timbuck said:
For Clubs that are "ALL IN" with ECNL - where will their 2nd teams play? Will we see a revitalized SCDSL Flight 1? Or will they try to form some made up "DPL" league to close the league even further?
Is SCDSL Discovery League still in play?
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Only one team has gone all in which is LAFC Slammers. That team did not have any teams in DPL last year so they will have no affect on the secondary leagues.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Only one team has gone all in which is LAFC Slammers. That team did not have any teams in DPL last year so they will have no affect on the secondary leagues.
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But they did have DA and ECNL last year? Or am I off on this?
If so- now they’ll have ECNL and flight 1? Or is there something else in between?
 
timbuck said:
For Clubs that are "ALL IN" with ECNL - where will their 2nd teams play? Will we see a revitalized SCDSL Flight 1? Or will they try to form some made up "DPL" league to close the league even further?
Is SCDSL Discovery League still in play?
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Only one team has gone all in which is LAFC Slammers. That team did not have any teams in DPL last year so they will have no affect on the secondary leagues.
 
timbuck said:
But they did have DA and ECNL last year? Or am I off on this?
If so- now they’ll have ECNL and flight 1? Or is there something else in between?
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Adding to @Simi response, it is my understanding that they will have, like you said, F1 teams. The national league (USYS FWRL) is a big part of SoCal club soccer and will always continue to be so.
 
Hearing rumblings of SW conference realignment and another 'all-in' return.....just rumblings but LAFC Slammers 'all-in' had a similar feel. Will it end up fact or fiction?
 
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