Anyone else see the Ulreich howler in the champions league? Those are the moments you hope you never see your kid keeper make, but apparently they all make em....even the pros at the highest level (well, we can argue if that would have happened to Neuer). Seems he didn't see if it was a backpass to him and decided at the last moment not to handle it (which was a worse decision than getting the IDFK). Moments like these make me wonder why my kid choses to be a keeper.
Ulreich Howler
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Mystery Train
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Just watching those sort of goals makes my stomach turn.
And is it just me, or should field players not celebrate so much on a pure gift like that? Dude, stop acting like you did something special. I remember seeing a clip of Tim Howard scoring a goal off a crazy wind-aided punt in a Premier League game, where the opposing keeper misjudged the bounce. His team was going crazy, but he didn't celebrate because he knew it was bad form to show up the other keeper on such a lucky play.
And is it just me, or should field players not celebrate so much on a pure gift like that? Dude, stop acting like you did something special. I remember seeing a clip of Tim Howard scoring a goal off a crazy wind-aided punt in a Premier League game, where the opposing keeper misjudged the bounce. His team was going crazy, but he didn't celebrate because he knew it was bad form to show up the other keeper on such a lucky play.
Fault lies in both players on this one, imo. The defender's ball was a terrible pass (angle and pace), his hips were doing something real funky for no reason. The keeper didn't recognize it as a pass until he started to go down, his indecision and inability to convert to kicking tells me that the recognition of a pass was NOT on his own and likely a teammate yelling that it was a pass. Most keepers who are going down for a save with the hands and realize that the timing with the attacker isn't what they thought, can quickly/easily transition to a kick or play without their hands. When you're startled by this info secondhand, it's easy to see this indecision occurring.
Yes, but it's not a hazard, it is the right thing to do. Ultimately, he should have been aware of it on his own. Playing back to the keeper should/can/will happen from any place on the field at any time, and it is up to the keeper to be prepared for this.
It was gut-wrenching. But a perfect lesson for us. My son, an 03, was asked to guest for the 02 PDA team for a pretty important match a few weeks ago. He was crazy nervous. During the match he called for a pass-back. The field condition wasn't the best, the ball took a crappy bounce under his kick and went straight into the goal. He was devastated. When this happened to Ulreich, I was able to show him that even at that level, mistakes happen. No goalie, NO PLAYER, is perfect.
Keepers need the thickest skin of all. That's why any kid that can master this position is truly something special.
Keepers need the thickest skin of all. That's why any kid that can master this position is truly something special.
The thing about the Ulreich mistake, though (and I'm not saying he wasn't responsible) is that it's partially the fault of the German system. The Germans, particularly Bayern, don't really emphasize individual creativity and instead have every player play his role. If you look at the play, there are 3 of his teammates pinned against the right where they can't help because the passing angles are cut off. The players on the left (because they are probably instructed to not cross a certain point on the field) are stuck out there playing their zones afraid to come in, trying to spread things out. Ulreich (as a replacement keeper) doesn't have the freedom that Neuer does and rather than come out to help he's pinned to the goal (in fact self-confidence has been a problem for him all season, look at who he's understudy for, and he had another howler right when he first took over for Neuer). Everyone is in a bad position, the pass angles are all cut off, then a bad pass comes, and Ulreich is caught not focusing. At least his teammates have been supportive....if not the press/public. The life of a goalkeeper. 
That was rough to watch today. Bale's bicycle kick was pretty awesome and other than that goal the game should've been a possible draw and either gone to OT and maybe PKs. The takedown of Saleh by Sergio Ramos was pretty obvious. Then he has the nerve later to feign an eye-poke when it clearly didn't happen. Saleh leaving was a definite game changer. We were watching it..I told my kid..well you learned something new today regarding distribution.
RedDevilDad
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Looks like Bolivia's GK wanted to get in on the conversation for mistake of the week... against USMNT. What a strange run for GKing lately...
RedDevilDad
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This question actually came up on my last ref exam. I was told that if the keeper had parried, then the flag should go up; but if the keeper gains possession it resets. Would be interested to here if more experienced refs disagree. The answer (which came up before Karius' mistake) left our group a little confused and unsatisfied.
The other argument I've heard is that it was interference with a keeper who had possession of the ball....same like a drop kick...but then how far would it have to roll before that was no longer the case...don't find that satisfying either.
Add David de Gea to the list of keeper mistakes in recent months. His play on the 2nd goal against Portugal got away from him as he treated it as a routine stop and it was anything but that.
What a game!!!
It looked like he got caught between using the old technique of bending down on your knee to scoop it and the current technique of forward diving on it. It's why they are discouraging the bent-knee method now. But what he did looked like neither.
Mystery Train
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Almost exact same look as the Seattle Sounders keeper in the LAFC home opener win. My kids' keeper coach always talks about attacking the ball with your feet and hands. In both cases, the keepers misjudged the speed and movement of the ball, catching them in an awkward position. Would rather see them stepping into it or coming forward to the ball in those situations.
"The Spaniard" is by far one of my favorites. Always looks so polished. Even when he makes a mistake.
Recently the rule was "clarified" that a player would "reset" an offside position when an opposing player "deliberately plays the ball."
Offside is reset when the defender/GK deliberately/intentionally makes an attempt to play the ball. [Stay with me]
Example 1: Defender sticks a leg out to block the ball (Attacker is in an offside position), ball deflects to Attacker. CALL - Offside because defender did not attempt to play the ball beyond just getting in the way.
Example 2: Defender attempts to head the ball back to the GK (Attacker is in an offside position), ball glances off Defender to Attacker's feet. Call - No Offside because defender deliberately played the ball ... albeit poorly.
Example 3: Attacker 1 shoots the ball, while Attacker 2 is in an offside position, GK makes an incredible leap to the right, outstretch to his max, deflects the ball to Attacker 2, who shoots and scores. Call - Offside because GK did not intentionally play the ball, rather just tried to stop the shot.
Example 4: Same as Example 3, but its the post. Call - Same as Example 3, Offside.
Once a player "deliberately" plays the ball, an Attacker that was previously in an offside position is "reset" as long as the Attacker is still behind the ball when it is deliberately (but poorly played).