State Cup

Next time you play them film the game from multiple angles and if you have the same problems send the videos to Calsouth, the ref association and the DOC. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
We played a much bigger team this year and at the time of our first game facing each other we were both undefeated in a bronze division. We scored two quick goals within the first five minutes against them and what happened after those two quick goals was astounding. Someone on our team who understood their language (not Spanish) heard the other opposing coach said go after the little forward and take him out. Slide tackles from the back, push from the back, and shoulder to the chest started to happen. Not a single foul was called over the next 10 minutes even after so many pleads from the coaches. Ref just didn't care. The little forward got back up right away every single time as he doesn't believe in flopping (he now does LOL). Then our parents started to get agitated as tough plays were started to happen to other players. Keep in mind that these are 07 boys so they are like 9 and 10 years old so some of them started to be afraid (can't blame them) and they ended up taking the lead before the half ended.

After half time, tough plays were still happening and the little forward along with his best buddy on the team just had it with the tough plays and fouled back prompting the opposing sides' parents to yell. Then our parents yelled back telling them to sit down and watch the game. One said how you like them apples or something to that effect. The back and forth actually went on for a good portion of the game so you would have thought the ref would put a stop to it but he just kept on going without blowing a whistle. Our coach told us to calm down but at that point, it was just too late. We ended up losing 5-2 or 6-2 because our team got so dinged up and quite frankly they were afraid. In hindsight, we should have just left and forfeited (and that's what we agreed to do in the future).

We didn't leave for 30 minutes because our coach was giving our kids (who were crying at that time) a prep talk. Because of the yelling from our side when their kids were fouled by our kids, those parents actually waited (for 30 minutes) and confronted us in the parking lot. Their coach got into with the parents too after one of us call him out on his intention to hurt our boys. Luckily, one of our parent said the cops were called and those guys scattered like cockroaches. Our coach, who has been in the business for over 20 years, have never seen this. He's seen reckless plays, dirty plays, and careless plays, but nothing like these boys were doing.

That was the first game. We actually had a second game left at our home field. Because of what happened, we asked our club to get three refs and get some security. We got two refs and no security (wasn't really expecting security, but we thought it wouldn't hurt to ask). Some of the parents who were in the parking lot scuffle were told to stay home to avoid running into those parents again. Our team manager told the refs what happened in the first game and asked them to please call the games tight even if we are doing the ticky tact fouls. You would have thought it went better? Nope. Again, we scored first. Again, fouls started to happened. But this time the refs started to call fouls. However, the fouls got harder and harder as the refs called for more fouls, and the refs had to stop the game a few time to tell the other coach to calm down. Except for the fouls, that was actually a good game. It was tied 2-2 until 3 minutes left when they scored what ended up to be the game winning goal. It actually was a good goal as the kid half volleyed it in. Kid celebrated like CR7 (of course he did LOL)....but guess what one of the parents went out to the field and celebrated with the kid picking him up and ran across the pitch. The center ref threw him out but he didn't leave the field. He went to the entrance which was like 30 yards away. Once the final whistle blow, that same parent took off his shirt and started running toward the field waving his shirt around. Our coach started to confront the coach and said that it was uncalled for and that parent actually threatened our coach. He along with another dad waited outside the entrance, but again, one of our dads told those two to scram because police was called. Needless to say they left, but as they were walking out, they were chanting XX (our club name) sucks, XX are P-word. It took me great restraint not to go apeshit on those two.

I have a video of that fool celebrating and running around celebrating as if he won the world cup but i wont post it anywhere. I really want to shame him on the internet but my wife talked me out of it as both team's kids faces were fairly clear. I understand OP's frustration and the reason for the post. We actually saw one of their state cup game from afar and the same dirty plays happened. Fouls were called and their coach and parents got into with the refs. Dont know what happened next as our game were starting.

My question to the refs in this community, are you aware of reputations of teams and coaches like this and how do you call those games.

Insane parents at those 12 and under games and especially at the 7v7 games.

To answer your question, yes the refs that have been around for a while know the reputations of coaches, teams, clubs and even certain players. Some coaches also know the reputations of some refs and how they call the game and how much noise they will take from the coach and spectators.
 
We played a much bigger team this year and at the time of our first game facing each other we were both undefeated in a bronze division. We scored two quick goals within the first five minutes against them and what happened after those two quick goals was astounding. Someone on our team who understood their language (not Spanish) heard the other opposing coach said go after the little forward and take him out. Slide tackles from the back, push from the back, and shoulder to the chest started to happen. Not a single foul was called over the next 10 minutes even after so many pleads from the coaches. Ref just didn't care. The little forward got back up right away every single time as he doesn't believe in flopping (he now does LOL). Then our parents started to get agitated as tough plays were started to happen to other players. Keep in mind that these are 07 boys so they are like 9 and 10 years old so some of them started to be afraid (can't blame them) and they ended up taking the lead before the half ended.

After half time, tough plays were still happening and the little forward along with his best buddy on the team just had it with the tough plays and fouled back prompting the opposing sides' parents to yell. Then our parents yelled back telling them to sit down and watch the game. One said how you like them apples or something to that effect. The back and forth actually went on for a good portion of the game so you would have thought the ref would put a stop to it but he just kept on going without blowing a whistle. Our coach told us to calm down but at that point, it was just too late. We ended up losing 5-2 or 6-2 because our team got so dinged up and quite frankly they were afraid. In hindsight, we should have just left and forfeited (and that's what we agreed to do in the future).

We didn't leave for 30 minutes because our coach was giving our kids (who were crying at that time) a prep talk. Because of the yelling from our side when their kids were fouled by our kids, those parents actually waited (for 30 minutes) and confronted us in the parking lot. Their coach got into with the parents too after one of us call him out on his intention to hurt our boys. Luckily, one of our parent said the cops were called and those guys scattered like cockroaches. Our coach, who has been in the business for over 20 years, have never seen this. He's seen reckless plays, dirty plays, and careless plays, but nothing like these boys were doing.

That was the first game. We actually had a second game left at our home field. Because of what happened, we asked our club to get three refs and get some security. We got two refs and no security (wasn't really expecting security, but we thought it wouldn't hurt to ask). Some of the parents who were in the parking lot scuffle were told to stay home to avoid running into those parents again. Our team manager told the refs what happened in the first game and asked them to please call the games tight even if we are doing the ticky tact fouls. You would have thought it went better? Nope. Again, we scored first. Again, fouls started to happened. But this time the refs started to call fouls. However, the fouls got harder and harder as the refs called for more fouls, and the refs had to stop the game a few time to tell the other coach to calm down. Except for the fouls, that was actually a good game. It was tied 2-2 until 3 minutes left when they scored what ended up to be the game winning goal. It actually was a good goal as the kid half volleyed it in. Kid celebrated like CR7 (of course he did LOL)....but guess what one of the parents went out to the field and celebrated with the kid picking him up and ran across the pitch. The center ref threw him out but he didn't leave the field. He went to the entrance which was like 30 yards away. Once the final whistle blow, that same parent took off his shirt and started running toward the field waving his shirt around. Our coach started to confront the coach and said that it was uncalled for and that parent actually threatened our coach. He along with another dad waited outside the entrance, but again, one of our dads told those two to scram because police was called. Needless to say they left, but as they were walking out, they were chanting XX (our club name) sucks, XX are P-word. It took me great restraint not to go apeshit on those two.

I have a video of that fool celebrating and running around celebrating as if he won the world cup but i wont post it anywhere. I really want to shame him on the internet but my wife talked me out of it as both team's kids faces were fairly clear. I understand OP's frustration and the reason for the post. We actually saw one of their state cup game from afar and the same dirty plays happened. Fouls were called and their coach and parents got into with the refs. Dont know what happened next as our game were starting.

My question to the refs in this community, are you aware of reputations of teams and coaches like this and how do you call those games.
If in fact it played out as you tell it, call out the club and the team. Don’t be afraid to call out the coach and everyone associated
 
Next time you play them film the game from multiple angles and if you have the same problems send the videos to Calsouth, the ref association and the DOC. Absolutely ridiculous.

What I wouldn't give to be the one at Cal South receiving all those crazy videos
 
What I wouldn't give to be the one at Cal South receiving all those crazy videos
But it didn't really happen that way. It doesn't show the whole picture. You don't see what she did to her before. The first half nothing was called. What about the first time we played them? It was all ball...
 
This behavior is even more ridiculous given that it's bronze.

No doubt, but a parent running around shirtless waving the shirt to celebrate his kids soccer victory is ridiculous at any level of play. We had a similar 2007 game a couple years ago in an early season tourney but without the shirt waving, parking lot confrontation and the rematch. Instead, we had punches thrown (on the pitch and in the handshake line), middle finger salutes and f-bombs directed at our parents by the opposing team. A few of our players got tired of getting tackled by behind, elbowed and kicked (actions which were likely spurred on by the opposing parents instructions of "take them out" in another language) without fouls called, so they took matters into their own hands and started to retaliate. Probably a half-dozen extended stoppages of play for injuries. The AR admitted the that the CR was letting the game get out of control but claimed because of ref protocol he wasn't allowed to voice his opinion to the CR. My son was punched right in front of the ref and CR just waived if off.
 
A little story about sideline behavior and how I learned to chill the hell out.

First year of DD's club was u11 bronze. We were total club soccer newbies, but so were all of the parents on the team save one. Those of us who were new lived and died with the on field exploits of our little soccer girls. It was fun. We socialized with the parents, we commiserated over how we got ripped off by that ref, how we dominated the game but lost, how the other team were clearly loaded with older kids with fake birth certificates, etc. etc. But I kept noticing how that one family stayed over to the side. They never engaged in these discussions. They were very nice, but they just set up at the back corner of the field and stayed quiet. They didn't really cheer when we scored. Not even when their kid was the one scoring. They never yelled at the refs when he missed a call. Even when it was their kid who got decked by a reckless play. They didn't engage in gossip about who was moving to what team. They didn't get upset by losses. They smiled and clapped when we won, but that was about it. One day I asked the dad about his other kids. Turned out that he had a son playing Div 2 soccer on scholarship. His oldest daughter had just committed to St. John's. His middle daughter was on her 3rd club and his youngest (on our team) was on her 2nd club. But they downplayed their kids' on field accomplishments. They lit up when I asked them about college and what the kids were studying. About what they wanted to do after college. I realized then that these folks had seen and been through it all. And they knew the score...they had their priorities straight. And even when they traveled back east to see their kids play in college, I'm sure they were still as cool as the other side of the pillow.

It's like this...Have you ever seen the clip of (then coach) Larry Bird's reaction to Reggie Miller hitting the game winning shot for him with .7 seconds on the clock against the Bulls in the playoffs? Cold. Stone cold. He barely blinks. He's like, "Been there. Done that."

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I realized then that I had to see the bigger picture. What was happening in those ulittles bronze and then silver and then silver elite, and then Flight 1 games didn't mean jack. The bad calls. The rough fouls. The goals scored. The games won or lost. It was the big picture of investing in my child's development that mattered, in life lessons, and in being her parent, her mentor, her guide. Not living vicariously through her. Not re-living my own athletic childhood dreams. It all seemed a lot less dramatic after that realization.
 
When my 2007 DD was a U9 we played up in the U10 division at a Memorial Day tournament. 90 degrees, 4 hours between Sunday games and lots of booze in the parking lot. My DD’s team was up 5-2 or so with about 15 minutes left. Other team was frustrated, as they lost their first two and were about to lose their third to a younger team.

My daughter and a girl from the other team collided really hard chasing down a shot that bounced back off the cross bar. Other kid got the wind knocked out of her and fell on the ground crying. Nothing intentional, just an unfortunate collision.

The girl’s mother ran out onto the field to tend to her kid while all the kids took a knee. The referee was yelling at the mom to get off the field. Other team’s parents start screaming at the referee “That’s her F..in Kid!” One of the dad’s goes out on the field and two hand shoved the sixty year old referee in the chest. He falls to the ground and calls 911 from his phone while on the ground. Both sets of parents enter the field screaming at each other. Parents on the other team start fighting each other. Cop cars come flying up to the field with lights and sirens on. Game was called. Kids watched the entire sorted mess. My daughter, who was 8 at the time, gets in the car and the only thing she says is “Can we go get an ice cream now?”
 
I like knocking back adult beverages as much as anybody. But I don’t understand the need to booze at a kids sporting event. The game is 60 minutes at the younger ages. If you can’t wait an hour for a beer- just stay home.
 
I like knocking back adult beverages as much as anybody. But I don’t understand the need to booze at a kids sporting event. The game is 60 minutes at the younger ages. If you can’t wait an hour for a beer- just stay home.
The post said there were 4 hours between games. I guess they decided this was more than an hour. It's a cultural thing, but we can't name the culture nor language...
 
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