Strikers oc

Sheriff Joe said:
You are probably right, but that Baker dude needs to chill, the 02 coach.
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Not sure if it's the same blues 02 coach but my friends daughter had a bad experience. She was recruited by the Blues coach and the family decided to go to another ECNL team. Any coach would just say good luck. This blues coach decided to wish them failure and very mean message about their future. Great team and I am sure that he is a great coach but definitely an ayhole.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
Not sure if it's the same blues 02 coach but my friends daughter had a bad experience. She was recruited by the Blues coach and the family decided to go to another ECNL team. Any coach would just say good luck. This blues coach decided to wish them failure and very mean message about their future. Great team and I am sure that he is a great coach but definitely an ayhole.
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This coach should be named. This is the kind of information that should be made public. Any coach that acts this way is not a great coach.
 
outside! said:
This coach should be named. This is the kind of information that should be made public. Any coach that acts this way is not a great coach.
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I think things like this happen more often than you would think.
I heard of an 07 player who was deciding between 2 clubs (Well, her parents were deciding.). They picked club B. Coach from club A said "That's too bad. We are going to crush you every time we play you."
 
Strikers ECNL is Strikers FC (Irvine). It will remain that way. Strikers North plays in SCDSL. They are separate entities.
 
timbuck said:
Then what is Strikers North taking over? Surely Strikers MV could use a coach or 2 and some players.
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Strikers north is taking over the management of the ECNL arm of Strikers Irvine. If someone knows different I would love to hear it
 
Strikers FC Irvine is the main/original club, franchises like North, MV and OC were clubs under former names that joined Strikers but got to still run things their way.

The ECNL program is basically it’s own little part of the Strikers club as well but has had different franchise DOC’s run it over the years. You had the Carmago’s run it at one point while they also ran their own Strikers Cerritos franchise (this was before they became CDA Slammers). AR then ran it while also being the head of Strikers OC. Now that Strikers OC imploded due to the mass coach/player exodus over the past couple of years, AR is now joining Blues.

Now it’s going to have the leadership of Strikers North step in to salvage and run the ECNL program with coaches like RF and KT from the North franchise.

Whoever ran it over the years, and moving forward, doesn’t change the fact that it’s the Strikers FC ECNL program.

....... or that’s my take on it anyway!
 
SimpleSoccer said:
Strikers FC Irvine is the main/original club, franchises like North, MV and OC were clubs under former names that joined Strikers but got to still run things their way.

The ECNL program is basically it’s own little part of the Strikers club as well but has had different franchise DOC’s run it over the years. You had the Carmago’s run it at one point while they also ran their own Strikers Cerritos franchise (this was before they became CDA Slammers). AR then ran it while also being the head of Strikers OC. Now that Strikers OC imploded due to the mass coach/player exodus over the past couple of years, AR is now joining Blues.

Now it’s going to have the leadership of Strikers North step in to salvage and run the ECNL program with coaches like RF and KT from the North franchise.

Whoever ran it over the years, and moving forward, doesn’t change the fact that it’s the Strikers FC ECNL program.

....... or that’s my take on it anyway!
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I wouldn't say "salvage." Strikers' ECNL teams are, for the most part, doing well and TP, despite also coaching for Blues next season, will continue to coach her Strikers ECNL teams.
 
SocalPapa said:
I wouldn't say "salvage." Strikers' ECNL teams are, for the most part, doing well and TP, despite also coaching for Blues next season, will continue to coach her Strikers ECNL teams.
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I believe the reference was more towards the direction of the organization. Their ‘04 team has not won a game yet.
 
SimpleSoccer said:
Strikers FC Irvine is the main/original club, franchises like North, MV and OC were clubs under former names that joined Strikers but got to still run things their way.

The ECNL program is basically it’s own little part of the Strikers club as well but has had different franchise DOC’s run it over the years. You had the Carmago’s run it at one point while they also ran their own Strikers Cerritos franchise (this was before they became CDA Slammers). AR then ran it while also being the head of Strikers OC. Now that Strikers OC imploded due to the mass coach/player exodus over the past couple of years, AR is now joining Blues.

Now it’s going to have the leadership of Strikers North step in to salvage and run the ECNL program with coaches like RF and KT from the North franchise.

Whoever ran it over the years, and moving forward, doesn’t change the fact that it’s the Strikers FC ECNL program.

....... or that’s my take on it anyway!
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1 billion percent correct
 
SocalPapa said:
I wouldn't say "salvage." Strikers' ECNL teams are, for the most part, doing well and TP, despite also coaching for Blues next season, will continue to coach her Strikers ECNL teams.
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Sorry, I meant salvage in regards to the situation of the program is in having new leadership, wasn’t meant as a comment on any of the individual teams.

Looking at the teams, TP does 2 ECNL teams this season but one of them is the oldest so I’m assuming the majority of those players will be graduating out. When you say she will continue to coach her ‘teams’ my guess is you mean she will keep her 02s and then take over what will be the new oldest group which would mean AR’s current 01 team with any returning players she has from the current 99/00 group? Both of these teams seem to be around or just over a .500 record and in the middle of the pack in conference so I’m sure they’ll do fine next year, especially with the weaker clubs they are adding from Arizona.

Looks like the 04s are the only team that has really struggled and I have no idea what they would have in the pipeline for 05 & 06 next season.

The bigger question might be what the 03s are doing next season as that’s the only team who are doing really really well. If AR is going to Blues, I’d be surprised if he didn’t try and take some players with and/or some might just naturally look elsewhere with all the changes. I’m sure Blues would want to bring in the top players on that team.

I suppose it’s just a matter of watch this space.
 
SimpleSoccer said:
Sorry, I meant salvage in regards to the situation of the program is in having new leadership, wasn’t meant as a comment on any of the individual teams.

Looking at the teams, TP does 2 ECNL teams this season but one of them is the oldest so I’m assuming the majority of those players will be graduating out. When you say she will continue to coach her ‘teams’ my guess is you mean she will keep her 02s and then take over what will be the new oldest group which would mean AR’s current 01 team with any returning players she has from the current 99/00 group? Both of these teams seem to be around or just over a .500 record and in the middle of the pack in conference so I’m sure they’ll do fine next year, especially with the weaker clubs they are adding from Arizona.

Looks like the 04s are the only team that has really struggled and I have no idea what they would have in the pipeline for 05 & 06 next season.

The bigger question might be what the 03s are doing next season as that’s the only team who are doing really really well. If AR is going to Blues, I’d be surprised if he didn’t try and take some players with and/or some might just naturally look elsewhere with all the changes. I’m sure Blues would want to bring in the top players on that team.

I suppose it’s just a matter of watch this space.
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I wouldn't describe this transition as a "salvage" operation in any respect. First, Strikers haven't been dominant, but as an ECNL program they have a good overall record of fielding quality teams. Consider the average SW Conference's rankings among each club's 5 teams this season:

1. Slammers 3
2. Heat 3.8
3. So Cal blues 4.2
4. Strikers 4.8
5. Surf 5
6. Arsenal 5.4
7. West Coast 5.4
8. Sereno 6
9. Del Mar 7.4

Take out the U14 teams and Strikers is second only to Slammers:

1. Slammers 3.25
2. Strikers 3.75
3. Heat 4.5
4. So Cal Blues 4.5
5. Arsenal 4.75
6. Surf 5.25
7. West Coast 5.4
8. Sereno 6
9. Del Mar 8

As @Kicker4Life mentioned, the U14 team is winless. But I wouldn't take that as significantly worse of an omen than Surf's winless U17 team.

Second, AR moved to Blues so management had to change. As you mentioned, Strikers' ECNL management has changed before. And from what I've seen the Blues are accommodating the Strikers to minimize disruption (including allowing TP to coach for both clubs). I'd be shocked if they then turned around and raided the Strikers' rosters. That'd be a hell of a Machiavellian move.
 
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SocalPapa said:
I wouldn't describe what's happening as a "salvage" operation in any respect. First, Strikers haven't been dominant, but as an ECNL program they have a good overall record of fielding quality teams. Consider the average SW Conference's rankings among each club's 5 teams this season:

1. Slammers 3
2. Heat 3.8
3. So Cal blues 4.2
4. Strikers 4.8
5. Surf 5
6. Arsenal 5.4
7. West Coast 5.4
8. Sereno 6
9. Del Mar 7.4

Take out the U14 teams and Strikers is second only to Slammers:

1. Slammers 3.25
2. Strikers 3.75
3. Heat 4.5
4. So Cal Blues 4.5
5. Arsenal 4.75
6. Surf 5.25
7. West Coast 5.4
8. Sereno 6
9. Del Mar 8

As @Kicker4Life mentioned, the U14 team is winless. But I wouldn't take that as significantly worse of an omen than Surf's winless U17 team.

Second, AR moved to Blues so management had to change. As you mentioned, Strikers' ECNL management has changed before. And from what I've seen the Blues are accommodating the Strikers to minimize disruption (including allowing TP to coach for both clubs). I'd be shocked if they then turned around and raided the Strikers' rosters. That'd be a hell of a Machiavellian move.
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Definitely a valid point but it is a bit of a different situation when talking about the Surf or Blues teams that may be struggling as they are their B teams in those age groups.
The one age group where both clubs have their top team in ECNL (2002), they are in 1st and 2nd Place. Blues 01 is also their top team in the age group and are top as well. What’s most impressive is Slammers are the top overall club in the SW conference and it’s their B teams as well!

Also hard to say rule out the 04 age group as that’s a returning one next year, would make more sense to say take out the oldest age group if you are looking at projections for the following season/where a club is at.

Other issue is the building of the teams for the new age groups next season like the 05s as clubs like Slammers and Surf have a large player pool to draw from. Strikers, along with some of the other clubs aren’t so fortunate. For example, I’m pretty sure the current Surf, Blues or Slammers 05 B teams which will likely becoming their ECNL teams next season and the Heat or Arsenal A teams would currently beat the top Strikers teams at the different franchises. But that could of course all change with the right coaches/recruiting/structure put in place. Again only time will tell.
 
SimpleSoccer said:
Definitely a valid point but it is a bit of a different situation when talking about the Surf or Blues teams that may be struggling as they are their B teams in those age groups.
The one age group where both clubs have their top team in ECNL (2002), they are in 1st and 2nd Place. Blues 01 is also their top team in the age group and are top as well. What’s most impressive is Slammers are the top overall club in the SW conference and it’s their B teams as well!

Also hard to say rule out the 04 age group as that’s a returning one next year, would make more sense to say take out the oldest age group if you are looking at projections for the following season/where a club is at.

Other issue is the building of the teams for the new age groups next season like the 05s as clubs like Slammers and Surf have a large player pool to draw from. Strikers, along with some of the other clubs aren’t so fortunate. For example, I’m pretty sure the current Surf, Blues or Slammers 05 B teams which will likely becoming their ECNL teams next season and the Heat or Arsenal A teams would currently beat the top Strikers teams at the different franchises. But that could of course all change with the right coaches/recruiting/structure put in place. Again only time will tell.
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Still 4th if you take out the oldest age group instead (but now tied with Surf):

Slammers 2.75
So Cal Blues 3.25
Heat 4.25
Strikers 4.75
Surf 4.75
Arsenal 5.4
West Coast 6
Del Mar 7
Sereno 7.25

Being a club's A team doesn't necessarily give you an advantage (see Del Mar, Sereno). But I agree Slammers' ability to attract such a deep collection of top talent is impressive.
 
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