We (me and my child) are getting a little tired of getting on a new soccer club buying all the gear meeting new people developing team chemistry all over again just so when we finish state cup or even before state cup the team disbands down to 2 or 3 players. Is this par for the course? I'm not sure why this keeps happening either we are unlucky or some other..? I would rather join league games and meet ups online at this point!
Disbanded Teams where to go next..?
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Thanks! Yeah I think the last club we were at was established and the team of 8 were all from previous season so I had good feeling but then at the end of the season when I heard how many kids were leaving the team to go to other teams etc.. I was shocked that only 3 kids would remain.
Find a coach that is a great fit for your kid’s development and stick to that for a couple of seasons min.
Forget about what others are doing. Most of the times Kids don’t leave parents do. Parents leave for the stupidest reasons. A higher level team has a spot open and The parent wants the kid to play at a higher level. Even when the kid isn’t at that level yet. Etc
Forget about what others are doing. Most of the times Kids don’t leave parents do. Parents leave for the stupidest reasons. A higher level team has a spot open and The parent wants the kid to play at a higher level. Even when the kid isn’t at that level yet. Etc
What you are seeing is a common problem in youth sports all together. People are always following this pot at the end of the rainbow.
I think its more difficult than what most people make it seem to be, as it non sense to be driving town to have a kid find an establish club, which most likely is where all these people are going. Personally I despised people that pulls this bs and the worst part all together is that people just don't leave and be gracious about it, they leave and throw all kind of dirt on their previous experience that makes others skeptical about joining these teams.
Something similar is happening to my nephew and I hope that you could find a place where people are committed and not easily persuaded by the kool aid of tracksuit wearing used car salesmen.
jrcaesar
SILVER ELITE
Bigger clubs aren't better, they are just a different beast*. Challenge of keeping a smaller club team together is having 14 sets of parents who agree with this point of view, and a coach you can trust to get your child to academy tryouts if that's a goal and the player is good enough.
(*Bigger clubs do have better fields to practice on, generally, which is nice. They pay more for that and can divide that cost by more users.)
(*Bigger clubs do have better fields to practice on, generally, which is nice. They pay more for that and can divide that cost by more users.)
I’ve been on a smaller size club and I think communication is better on a smaller size boutique style club compared to the bigger clubs from our experience which is only 2 clubs. Can your kid still potentially make it on the ODP list even if the are from a much smaller less reputable club?
Also I will add that both clubs we left we did not want to leave but because of the teams getting disbanded and coaches leaving caused most of this drama.
Very common. Happening to my nieces team. Bronze team. Lost much more than they lost but coach was teaching them the possession game and how to use the keeper to build out the back. By the end of the season they had it and were clicking as a unit but the beginning was a disaster with defenders and the keeper losing it far more than winning it, playing against run 'em and shot em fast teams. First, they lost their lead striker (who was pretty amazing). I kind of see it from her folks point of view....she was ready for silver and the team didn't advance....she scored at least half the goals even if the coach didn't believe in the "get it to Suzie approach"...was in need of a bigger challenge. Then, they lost their starting keeper....whose folks felt that she got a lot of the blame for the losing season unfairly....totally can see that too. So the No 2 and 3 players are sitting there, now wondering if they have to carry the team, and their folks are worried that having lost the keeper they'll have to start the system from scratch....so they bolt to a lateral team (also bronze) that won more at a larger club. So the coach starts recruiting...new keeper has natural talent but coming out of AYSO has never seen the backpass before...few new players too also AYSO AllStar players that will take some time to get used to the system....Nos 4 and 5 leave (plus two '10s drop down). First tournament comes...the team doesn't have it's same mojo back.....so the rest of the old timers (including niece) leave, two dropping soccer entirely. Complete turnover of a team.
We were on a strong Flight 2 team this past season that got 2nd place in our league only losing to a Flight 2 team that was coming down from Flight 1 the previous year to get wins and confidence!
We won at least one game at each of the 8 or more tournaments we joined.
We won one game but did not move outta the group stages at State Cup with that said..
I honestly thought moving entire team to Flight 1 would of been a good idea for the team moral and club based on the teams experience team chemistry together and kids discipline.
We won at least one game at each of the 8 or more tournaments we joined.
We won one game but did not move outta the group stages at State Cup with that said..
I honestly thought moving entire team to Flight 1 would of been a good idea for the team moral and club based on the teams experience team chemistry together and kids discipline.
Eagle33
PREMIER
That's a pretty bold assumption considering that club or team was not mentioned.
Teams break up in all levels but my observation is that lower tier (2,3, SE, S,B) teams have higher frequency of breakups.
Top tier teams appear to have kids trying out throughout the year and as long as its winning, they tend to stay together. It appear to have no relationship with how good or bad families are, or for that matter the quality of coaching. Unfortunately, most parents equate winning team coach=good coach, so as long as the team is winning, its all good.
The youth sports parents falls into, typically, between two ends of spectrum. On one end, the gypsy type moves from club to club in search of better every year. The other end has the community type who tends to stay together because kids are friends. Since most people falls somewhere in between, the likelihood of any given team breaking up probably has to do with how large of population a team has close to the gypsy type of families.
The other large factor is the players quitting the sports. As the team reach U15+, attrition becomes an issue. Our younger kid's team has two players quitting and not coming back from the high school break. Had 18 players, now 16 and we know couple of those kids are moving on so will be down to 14. Since we have two keepers, in reality, we have two field subs. Very common as kids get older.
Top tier teams appear to have kids trying out throughout the year and as long as its winning, they tend to stay together. It appear to have no relationship with how good or bad families are, or for that matter the quality of coaching. Unfortunately, most parents equate winning team coach=good coach, so as long as the team is winning, its all good.
The youth sports parents falls into, typically, between two ends of spectrum. On one end, the gypsy type moves from club to club in search of better every year. The other end has the community type who tends to stay together because kids are friends. Since most people falls somewhere in between, the likelihood of any given team breaking up probably has to do with how large of population a team has close to the gypsy type of families.
The other large factor is the players quitting the sports. As the team reach U15+, attrition becomes an issue. Our younger kid's team has two players quitting and not coming back from the high school break. Had 18 players, now 16 and we know couple of those kids are moving on so will be down to 14. Since we have two keepers, in reality, we have two field subs. Very common as kids get older.
jrcaesar
SILVER ELITE
Except this must be a SCDSL club (flight 1, flight 2) ... so the irony here is that this is supposed to be all about Development of the players within the club above all. There shouldn't be a reason for any player to be moving because the club will find and place all the players in an appropriate coach/level. Isn't that what the league says?
Another factor that I have found certain correlation is clubs/coaches sabotaging their competition.
Have anyone ever wonder how all these players from these teams end up in a certain club's A or B team and close competitors teams start riding into the sunset?
I'm surprised that you didn't call it as it is, it's all rec unless its actual DA teams.
ItsJustSoccer
BRONZE
I think it is safe to assume that some movement is expected based on the fact that teams keep growing as they get older - you go from playing 4v4 to 7v7 to 9v9 to 11v11 over the course of several years. If teams are requiring more players on the roster as they get older and the amount of kids playing competitive soccer decreases (based on burnout or choosing other sports as a priority) you can kind of expect some teams to collapse, right?
We have been on the frustrating road that you are trying to navigate as well and it sucks. We are now those disillusioned parents that believe "well, I guess this is how the whole club soccer world works" and just try to find the best fit for our kids continued success and development.
We have been on the frustrating road that you are trying to navigate as well and it sucks. We are now those disillusioned parents that believe "well, I guess this is how the whole club soccer world works" and just try to find the best fit for our kids continued success and development.
This happens frequently.
There are numerous factors.
-Individual kids/families want to make the jump to bigger better
-coaches leave - there is far less stability than even 5 years ago.
-clubs churn and burn
-age and club changes
Find a coach that plays the style you think your kid thrives in and will benefit from. Trophies mean nothing. Club badges mean nothing. Your kid can win a trophy at u11 and be kicked off the team at the end of the season. The key is your kid improving year after year.
There are numerous factors.
-Individual kids/families want to make the jump to bigger better
-coaches leave - there is far less stability than even 5 years ago.
-clubs churn and burn
-age and club changes
Find a coach that plays the style you think your kid thrives in and will benefit from. Trophies mean nothing. Club badges mean nothing. Your kid can win a trophy at u11 and be kicked off the team at the end of the season. The key is your kid improving year after year.
We moved my 07 kid this year. Weren't planning on it. We liked the coach. She liked the coach. She liked the kids on the team. Team didn't have a great record. We weren't that concerned by the record. My kid played hard. I saw her have considerable improvement. Some on the team had been there for 2 or 3 years. They felt the team had plateaued and wasn't trying to get better (IE - There was minimal effort to try and find new players. Even when we had 1 player bail with 3 games left. And another before state cup). Four other players decided they were going to look around. So we looked around too.
We attended tryouts that had 50+ kids in attendance. Yet her prior club had 1 or 2 girls show up for a training session. We felt that it was unlikely there would be a full roster next season.
We attended tryouts that had 50+ kids in attendance. Yet her prior club had 1 or 2 girls show up for a training session. We felt that it was unlikely there would be a full roster next season.
Chalklines
GOLD
Mystery Train
GOLD
Sure . . . if the coach is well connected. I know a guy who runs a boutique club who seems to have an "in" with ODP. Always seems to get kids ODP invites year in and out. I've heard the process is notoriously political. I wouldn't make ODP invites a big factor in choosing a club.