Parents and player character

soloyosh

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A friend of mine had a player on his club team that texted the coach that he was sick. This text was followed by texts from the parents stating the same. Said player was later to be found working with a keeper coach during what would have been the normal team practice time while his parents watched.

The player was removed from the team for lying to the coach (violation of the code of conduct).

Thoughts?
 
Curious what the age of the player is. Also, why did the player not just get permission to go to a keeper training. Many coaches are accepting of keepers attending keeper training in lieu of team training.
 
Thoughts about what?
The kid lied
The parents lied
The kid has been taught to deceive by the parents
The parents set the example.

Get rid of them, the parents are dangerous to a team environment and are a potential cancer. Many other ways this could have been handled but to be cowardly about it is indicative of future problems.
 
Curious what the age of the player is. Also, why did the player not just get permission to go to a keeper training. Many coaches are accepting of keepers attending keeper training in lieu of team training.
U14

Don't know the answer to your question as to why...
 
I guess it teaches a lesson not to lie.
But- I don’t unless the kid is attending the other training as a “tryout” for another team, there is probably a teachable moment here and the kid doesn’t need to get kicked off.

Coach (to parents and player at the same time): I’m concerned that you felt you had to lie to me about your reason for missing practice. If you had approached me and asked about attending a keeper training during our normal practice, we coulld have worked something out. Now, I have an issue with this. And now I have to question what’s really going on. Can we have an open discussion about this?”
 
I guess it teaches a lesson not to lie.
But- I don’t unless the kid is attending the other training as a “tryout” for another team, there is probably a teachable moment here and the kid doesn’t need to get kicked off.

Coach (to parents and player at the same time): I’m concerned that you felt you had to lie to me about your reason for missing practice. If you had approached me and asked about attending a keeper training during our normal practice, we coulld have worked something out. Now, I have an issue with this. And now I have to question what’s really going on. Can we have an open discussion about this?”

There’s clearly something more going on between both parties other than this one incident.
 
A friend of mine had a player on his club team that texted the coach that he was sick. This text was followed by texts from the parents stating the same. Said player was later to be found working with a keeper coach during what would have been the normal team practice time while his parents watched.

The player was removed from the team for lying to the coach (violation of the code of conduct).

Thoughts?
Were they afraid to tell the coach? If they were, why? That is the biggest question of all. Certainly not good to lie but how many parents lie about kids ages to get in movies, or why they are absent from school or any other number of scenarios. Sounds like there is a parent other than the liar who is just as much of a "cancer"!
 
Were they afraid to tell the coach? If they were, why? That is the biggest question of all. Certainly not good to lie but how many parents lie about kids ages to get in movies, or why they are absent from school or any other number of scenarios. Sounds like there is a parent other than the liar who is just as much of a "cancer"!
I think we’ve all called out sick because we forgot to put in for PTO but when the boss gets pissed we don’t get to be that surprised. If the kid got cut for this there had to have been problems leading up to it.
 
In this over saturated club market, We are the customers. The coach should not kick them out for lying. We all tell a white lie here and there. If anything the coach should be happy that the kid is training even if it's not with the team.

Coaches lie too so maybe they should get kicked out too. Lol.
 
It’s hilarios to me when Coaches, clubs and parents try to be the morality police and pick and choose when and how to apply their own draconian rules. So what the parents lied and so what the kid lied. Parents get kids out of school all time for Soccer trips, tournaments, showcases, etc. Most don’t say hey School we are off to Soccer in Florida for 7 days. Nope you say your kid is sick. Does your school kick you out? No. Does your DD classmates parents call the school and be a tattle tale? No. Do the parents get lectured for poor school culture and setting a poor example? No. We waste so much time in this country on Soccer BS, rules, and so called club culture that it’s comical.
 
It’s hilarios to me when Coaches, clubs and parents try to be the morality police and pick and choose when and how to apply their own draconian rules. So what the parents lied and so what the kid lied. Parents get kids out of school all time for Soccer trips, tournaments, showcases, etc. Most don’t say hey School we are off to Soccer in Florida for 7 days. Nope you say your kid is sick. Does your school kick you out? No. Does your DD classmates parents call the school and be a tattle tale? No. Do the parents get lectured for poor school culture and setting a poor example? No. We waste so much time in this country on Soccer BS, rules, and so called club culture that it’s comical.
Hey now that’s because education doesn’t matter. Ball is life.
 
Seems like most comments think the kid should not be penalized in this situation. So let's take it one step further. Team is having a scrimmage in preparation for State Cup on a Saturday. Three weeks notice has been given that extra practices will take place on Saturdays in preparing for State Cup. Kid says they cannot make it and it turns out that the kid is watching soccer games at another club. As the coach do you say and do nothing, say nothing but bench kid for State Cup or kick kid off team now? Assume same age as above. I am just wondering where everyone would draw the line.
I will bite. It’s a slow day in the office here. As a parent I draw no line because the line always moves. Do the best for your DD. As for the coach, I’d say if kid is a baller nothing is done as long they show up for game. if kid is marginal or below they make a statement example out of it.
 
Seems like most comments think the kid should not be penalized in this situation. So let's take it one step further. Team is having a scrimmage in preparation for State Cup on a Saturday. Three weeks notice has been given that extra practices will take place on Saturdays in preparing for State Cup. Kid says they cannot make it and it turns out that the kid is watching soccer games at another club. As the coach do you say and do nothing, say nothing but bench kid for State Cup or kick kid off team now? Assume same age as above. I am just wondering where everyone would draw the line.
Someone mentioned draconian rules so let’s go with that
If the underhanded behavior hurts the team the player should be hobbled. If it just annoys the coach they should just be mercilessly made fun of by grown adults on a soccer forum.
 
Further clarity: He's been missing practice to do keeper training without letting the coach know (no call, no show). Coach found out and asked about it. Keeper coach is the players father and also works with other paying kids on the day that conflicts with team practice. Coach asked them to adjust the keeper training time or work with his son one on one at a different time so he could make team practice.
 
Is the kid a full time keeper? Does he see any field time?
Not sure. However, my experience with keeper training is that its pretty "hands" focused. Most of the time the keeper has the ball at their feet, like a field player. So I would think field time, with their team, is every it as important as anything else. No?
 
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