Coach Movement and 2018 Assignments

Now that Surf tryouts are over, what are people being told about coaching assignments? Is the coach that is going to be coaching next seasons team the one making the call?

Girls from other DA and ECNL teams were at Surf tryouts. A DA parent told me that they could tryout for the ECNL team without breaking DA rules. They said they could practice with both DA and ECNL teams until DA tryouts but at least would be offered a spot on the ECNL team come summer.

I would appreciate knowing the rules and ramifications because we would like to tryout in a year from now but if timing is going to be an issue that could affect which type of team to join this year.

What age group are you talking about? Current DA/ECNL age group (04) or about-to-become DA/ECNL age group (05)?
 
Almost every ECNL team has a roster of 20+ players. So if this offer is being made to a few, no big deal. But what are they telling the current ECNL players?

Parents could be lying. It seems like very bad business to offer someone an ECNL spot when their are known DA girls wanting to come down and you have six months left in a DA season. Lots of unknowns. Why would you add or take away from a team with one to two girls when you haven't even seen the full hand to play with?
That's why I always had respect for a certain coach who shall remain nameless. He never chose teams based on numbers he chose based on what he needed at what spot.
 
Parents could be lying. It seems like very bad business to offer someone an ECNL spot when their are known DA girls wanting to come down and you have six months left in a DA season. Lots of unknowns. Why would you add or take away from a team with one to two girls when you haven't even seen the full hand to play with?
That's why I always had respect for a certain coach who shall remain nameless. He never chose teams based on numbers he chose based on what he needed at what spot.

If you have respect for him, why not name him?
 
People need to be careful.
DA doesn't have open "tryouts" and season doesn't end until July.
ECNL doesn't end until May.
I don't know why I am hearing about 04 telling people they made a DA or ECNL team.
Also the good old "you can practice with the DA team (lie) or the ECNL team( gasp)"
No it's called the c team
Not so fast my friend. Surf had several non-surf girls on the 2004 DA field yesterday. Whether they get offered a spot obviously remains to be seen, but if I'm a betting l will definitely be girls from outside the club who get pulled in on the ECNL team from what I saw.
How can surf offer spots right now to this many girls on an ecnl team with a full roster? I hope all the parents in this situation are smart enough to have a Plan B.
I'm not sure why people think DA or ECNL is any different than any other team/league? In fact, DA playing time makes it abundantly clear on most teams who 1-11 are and who is on the outside. Any kid who's starting the minimum number of games and only getting 20 minutes a week will need to take the hint.
 
Clarify please I have no idea what you are talking about? There was a DA field lol?
And I assume since none of the ECNL girls or current DA girls were there you were basically looking at current C team at Surf with outside of the club girls so you may want to temper your "predictions"
Most of us haven't been to a "tryout" in about two years.
As an aside I know many people are already well aware of where they are going for next year at oi age group anyway.
 
Clarify please I have no idea what you are talking about? There was a DA field lol?
And I assume since none of the ECNL girls or current DA girls were there you were basically looking at current C team at Surf with outside of the club girls so you may want to temper your "predictions"
Most of us haven't been to a "tryout" in about two years.
As an aside I know many people are already well aware of where they are going for next year at oi age group anyway.


I agree that if your daughter has been to practices, and they are serious about putting her on either DA or ECNL team, there would not be a need to go to the tryout this week. Just heard serious offers were already made and girls told not to go to tryout.
 
Clarify please I have no idea what you are talking about? There was a DA field lol?
And I assume since none of the ECNL girls or current DA girls were there you were basically looking at current C team at Surf with outside of the club girls so you may want to temper your "predictions"
Most of us haven't been to a "tryout" in about two years.
As an aside I know many people are already well aware of where they are going for next year at oi age group anyway.
Based on seeing 1 04 Surf DA girl at the tryouts last night I would assume that there were additional 04 DA girls there as well. I just don’t know the full roster. And the girl I saw isn’t a girl on the bubble.
 
Clarify please I have no idea what you are talking about? There was a DA field lol?
And I assume since none of the ECNL girls or current DA girls were there you were basically looking at current C team at Surf with outside of the club girls so you may want to temper your "predictions"
Most of us haven't been to a "tryout" in about two years.
As an aside I know many people are already well aware of where they are going for next year at oi age group anyway.
There was absolutely a DA field at Surf 04 last night, complete with the current 04 DA team players.
 
Wow! Surf made their current 04 try out? That's surprising and the only club I have heard of doing that!
Are we sure it wasn't their practice? That's odd.
 
There was absolutely a DA field at Surf 04 last night, complete with the current 04 DA team players.

This is not a try out, as DA try outs are not allowed under US Soccer DA rules. My guess is it was a practice that they let some girls join to make their parents happy and think they are being considered for DA. Nobody wants to go to a try out for a C team.
 
This is not a try out, as DA try outs are not allowed under US Soccer DA rules. My guess is it was a practice that they let some girls join to make their parents happy and think they are being considered for DA. Nobody wants to go to a try out for a C team.
I wouldn't be surprise that at the end they would say you made the DA team...on paper its the DA II or congrats you made the ECNL "Reserve" team that's what we meant to say. Seen this happen to a few client and I told to make sure it was the real team and not "Reserve", "II", "Pre", "EGSL" etc
 
I wouldn't be surprise that at the end they would say you made the DA team...on paper its the DA II or congrats you made the ECNL "Reserve" team that's what we meant to say. Seen this happen to a few client and I told to make sure it was the real team and not "Reserve", "II", "Pre", "EGSL" etc
Surf is not part of the DA 2 bs and are are upfront about calling it EGSL.

They will let them "practice" or "join" the DA or ECNL team until tryouts later this year. Then it will be "sorry your dd is not performing like expected and it is best to move to the EGSL team where they will get lots of playing time. And of course if they do privates with the coach that will help."
 
This is not a try out, as DA try outs are not allowed under US Soccer DA rules. My guess is it was a practice that they let some girls join to make their parents happy and think they are being considered for DA. Nobody wants to go to a try out for a C team.
Exactly right. Dangle the carrot.

But I still don't understand how DA and ECNL players from other teams could have been there this week. Boy is Albion's 04 team going to get weaker really fast.
 
Exactly right. Dangle the carrot.

But I still don't understand how DA and ECNL players from other teams could have been there this week. Boy is Albion's 04 team going to get weaker really fast.


There were Albion DA players there? Is that allowed under DA rules? That’s pretty bold to show up at a tryout like that.
 
You forgot the end of the sentence....after they figure out whether or not certain players are leaving and then move other players up or around in the ECNL team.

As far as the other parent goes here is the deal- clubs are top down. I am not speaking only about Surf. They can't say what they will do with girls until their stars confirm where they are going. Their stars are currently assessing play time, school, commutes and school. Maybe their stars want to increase play time etc but aren't allowed to "communicate" with another DA until later.
Maybe a star wants to play ECNL because they want to play other sports.

If you are not being told this I am sorry but don't kill the messenger here.

I do know LAGSD was advertising for open spots on their 04 DA I would most definetly contact them.

There are many variables here and all I am pointing out is that if someone is giving you a firm sign I am happy for you- but be cautious and make sure you have this in writing and register.

I will also always encourage parents to go to the ECNL rules website and also US soccer so you can clearly see the timelines and transfer windows for current DA and ECNL players.
 
Can DA players go to ECNL tryouts or in this case an ECNL practice? I am not sure. But it did happen with other clubs as well. I am just trying to figure out the rules. Knowing US Soccer any violation of the rules would impact the player and not the violating club.
 
My daughter's friend is on Surfs 04 DA - she told my daughter they were required to attend tryouts and would be evaluated.
 
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