Girls DPL?

As with most things in life there are always exceptions. 04 there is little to no difference. 03 I would assume there is and the ECNL teams will remain competitive. 01 and 02 the Bakers have made sure that ECNL is King over and DPL and arguably a DA who knows. We are beating a dead horse- two years before any full shake out noted and by that time who know what additiobal surprises their will be.
 
bababooey said:
The DA Game Reports are really cool. I love how they list the roster (FT versus DP; rostered versus non-rostered; starter versus reserve), the substitution times and the positions (not all teams list the player positions). I do have a question for the forum......when a player receives a yellow card, it lists a code for the offense. Where do you get the legend to those infractions? Here is a link to a game report with a yellow card listed: http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/ss/view_game_report.php?eventId=4143765&teamId=4005180

As for the DPL teams/rosters....the DPL website is quite poor (dpleague.org) and has very little information. There are no rosters or game reports, but it looks like the same website service company (not sure what to call them), Bonzi handles the DA and DPL sites. The other item I would like from the DPL site is the coaching staff. Just curious how other organizations are handling their DA/DPL rosters. As an example, Pats 03 DA/DPL teams are both head coached by DR. Just curious if other DA organizations are using the same structure.
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It is really interesting to see which DA clubs are consistent in receiving a yellow cards even at this early stage. No surprises there.
 
bababooey said:
The DA Game Reports are really cool. I love how they list the roster (FT versus DP; rostered versus non-rostered; starter versus reserve), the substitution times and the positions (not all teams list the player positions). I do have a question for the forum......when a player receives a yellow card, it lists a code for the offense. Where do you get the legend to those infractions? Here is a link to a game report with a yellow card listed: http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/ss/view_game_report.php?eventId=4143765&teamId=4005180.
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UB is for Unsporting Behavior.
https://www.ussoccer.com/~/media/fi...autionable_and_sending_off_offenses.pdf?la=en
https://www.ussoccer.com/~/media/fi...autionable_and_sending_off_offenses.pdf?la=en
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Doesn't matter. No coaches are coming out to league games anyway especially during the college season. Eventually as these teams play tournaments their rosters will be on Got Soccer.
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I think these teams are not playing tournaments, most are being forced to do SilverLakes Showcases and National Cup. I think Vegas Players Cup might be the only real tournament they enter.
 
Striker17 said:
We are beating a dead horse- two years before any full shake out noted and by that time who know what additiobal surprises their will be.
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I agree that time will tell, but the issue is that these DPL clubs (at least some of them) aren't waiting for time to tell. They are already claiming parity with ECNL. To make such a boast for a newly-formed local league obviously draws scrutiny. And the fact that they've hidden their rosters only draws more suspicion. Heck, even CSL bronze teams publish their rosters.
 
SocalPapa said:
I agree that time will tell, but the issue is that these DPL clubs (at least some of them) aren't waiting for time to tell. They are already claiming parity with ECNL. To make such a boast for a newly-formed local league obviously draws scrutiny. And the fact that they've hidden their rosters only draws more suspicion. Heck, even CSL bronze teams publish their rosters.
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Its a new league. Give them a break. You are reading too much into things. My viewpoint is that for some DA programs, ECNL is their second team (maybe not the case for the Blues). For those without ECNL it is DPL. Maybe this was what LA Premier meant when they developed a diagram (why don't you seek them at and ask them?). Until all of these teams play a lot more games including against each other there is no way to know which second team program is better locally. Clearly the established ECNL clubs without DA are far superior to DPL and likely at least on par with DA for now. And I don't believe there is any intention to hide rosters. Probably more a function that it is a brand new league with limited resources and they just have not gotten to that level of detail yet.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Its a new league. Give them a break. You are reading too much into things. My viewpoint is that for some DA programs, ECNL is their second team (maybe not the case for the Blues). For those without ECNL it is DPL. Maybe this was what LA Premier meant when they developed a diagram (why don't you seek them at and ask them?). Until all of these teams play a lot more games including against each other there is no way to know which second team program is better locally. Clearly the established ECNL clubs without DA are far superior to DPL and likely at least on par with DA for now. And I don't believe there is any intention to hide rosters. Probably more a function that it is a brand new league with limited resources and they just have not gotten to that level of detail yet.
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I may very well be reading too much into it, but I highly doubt that the real issue is those 10 major clubs simply lacked the financial and administrative wherewithal to post team rosters to a website. Further, by my count there are 69 ECNL-only clubs nationwide and only 10 that are dual DA-ECNL. So if LA Premier's intent was to convey that ECNL teams are generally B teams then that would be even more misleading.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Its a new league. Give them a break. You are reading too much into things. My viewpoint is that for some DA programs, ECNL is their second team (maybe not the case for the Blues). For those without ECNL it is DPL. Maybe this was what LA Premier meant when they developed a diagram (why don't you seek them at and ask them?). Until all of these teams play a lot more games including against each other there is no way to know which second team program is better locally. Clearly the established ECNL clubs without DA are far superior to DPL and likely at least on par with DA for now. And I don't believe there is any intention to hide rosters. Probably more a function that it is a brand new league with limited resources and they just have not gotten to that level of detail yet.
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Not all ECNL Clubs across the country were at the same level, therefore not all ECNL only clubs are on par with the DA teams and/or DA/ECNL current clubs.
 
I agree with Simisoccerfan about the lack of rosters on the DPL site. I think there are a couple of factors at work. First, new league and probably limited resources to the league and website. Second, it seems like many of the clubs wait until the last minute to publish their rosters (and some not at all - SCDSL).

Leading up to the start of the season, there were many DA and ECNL rosters that were non-existent or partially completed. Both ECNL and US Soccer mandate that the rosters be published at some given date, with DPL, who is the authority to mandate these things?
 
Kicker4Life said:
So you got all this from reading the match reports. Damn your good
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Actually the game reports are great. You can see which players where rostered, who started, how long each player played, when the were subbed in and out and when goals were score. Pretty simple actually, does not take a rocket science degree.
 
bababooey said:
I agree with Simisoccerfan about the lack of rosters on the DPL site. I think there are a couple of factors at work. First, new league and probably limited resources to the league and website. Second, it seems like many of the clubs wait until the last minute to publish their rosters (and some not at all - SCDSL).

Leading up to the start of the season, there were many DA and ECNL rosters that were non-existent or partially completed. Both ECNL and US Soccer mandate that the rosters be published at some given date, with DPL, who is the authority to mandate these things?
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Though "Founded on the ideology of the full DA program" DPL is actually sanctioned by USYSoccer (CalSouth) and I'm not aware they have any such mandate. In any event, are you saying this is just a glitch and the DPL rosters will actually be up in a few days or what?
 
SocalPapa said:
Though "Founded on the ideology of the full DA program" DPL is actually sanctioned by USYSoccer (CalSouth) and I'm not aware they have any such mandate. In any event, are you saying this is just a glitch and the DPL rosters will actually be up in a few days or what?
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The DPL roster and game reports are not turned on for public/open access. It's all there and the bonzi system can show it all if they wanted to, it's not a glitch rather a choice to hide the info.
 
Fact said:
Actually the game reports are great. You can see which players where rostered, who started, how long each player played, when the were subbed in and out and when goals were score. Pretty simple actually, does not take a rocket science degree.
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Do they tell you who has been working hard and performing well in practice? Do they tell you who is coming off injury and needs their minutes managed? Do they tell you which girls are being brought on while making changes to the formation? Do they tell you how girls are being moved into new positions to see how they react in game? NO

It is obvious you have Zero idea what the coaches are doing or thinking, the state of the game, conditions at game time, and health or conditioning of the girls subbed in or out, when making the subs. Yet you look at a snapshot on paper as a basis for a pretty ignorant comment (throwbout the "D" in DA, etc).

Well done!
 
Kicker4Life said:
Do they tell you who has been working hard and performing well in practice? Do they tell you who is coming off injury and needs their minutes managed? Do they tell you which girls are being brought on while making changes to the formation? Do they tell you how girls are being moved into new positions to see how they react in game? NO

It is obvious you have Zero idea what the coaches are doing or thinking, the state of the game, conditions at game time, and health or conditioning of the girls subbed in or out, when making the subs. Yet you look at a snapshot on paper as a basis for a pretty ignorant comment (throwbout the "D" in DA, etc).

Well done!
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Kicker4Life........well, you didn't hold back. Bravo sir!
 
Fact said:
Actually the game reports are great. You can see which players where rostered, who started, how long each player played, when the were subbed in and out and when goals were score. Pretty simple actually, does not take a rocket science degree.
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Just an FYI....I have already seen game reports that are wrong. Players listed playing the entire game but coming out in the 50 th minute as well as players listed playing only 10 min but getting 30.
 
splinter said:
Just an FYI....I have already seen game reports that are wrong. Players listed playing the entire game but coming out in the 50 th minute as well as players listed playing only 10 min but getting 30.
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I would hope they fix this asap as aren't teams penalized if they don't follow the rules. For example, each player has to start 25% of the time. I would assume that the easiest way for USsoccer to audit teams to make sure they are compliant is to look at the game reports and if they are wrong that is not good.

For the teams that I have been following, coaches have been starting their 12-18th players in the games they believe are easier. The parents that I have been speaking too are not all that happy when their starter has to travel far and sit on the bench most of the time to allow what they perceive as a "lesser" player getting their required time in. They would rather have the coach tell them to stay home. Despite having played ECNL with the same coaches, they looks at DA much differently. Not sure why when especially given that they have only played a few games other than that during the summer tournaments, the best players played a lot more and started.
 
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