Eagles DA?? Any thoughts?

DA would have new coach- the previous encl Eagles coach placed second In presidents ,also had additional team in quarter finals-
 
The Eagles have been a good club over the years however last year their ECNL record for the 2003 team wasn't that great. What is the forum's thoughts on how their DA will be??
I think Eagles 03 changed in many ways due to the age change and they lost many of the 03's to Real SoCal Ecnl. Rebuilding season for the Team in my opinion.
 
I think Eagles 03 changed in many ways due to the age change and they lost many of the 03's to Real SoCal Ecnl. Rebuilding season for the Team in my opinion.

I agree. The Eagles 03 ECNL team has not been as strong as I thought an Eagles ECNL team would be. They have had a lot of success over the years with other teams (ECNL and non-ECNL), so I just figured the 03's would be strong too.

I suspect they have as good of a chance as any other GDA team at this point to be successful. Time will tell.
 
I think Eagles 03 changed in many ways due to the age change and they lost many of the 03's to Real SoCal Ecnl. Rebuilding season for the Team in my opinion.

Eagles lost only two '03 girls to RSC '03 ECNL who were originally RSC players before they played for Eagles. The Eagles '03 ECNL were not ECNL ready players not to mention the U13 team before the age change was as made up of mostly 02's.
 
Looking at their ECNL records only their U15 team is going to the championship playoffs and that team has slipped down to 4th place so just making the cut. Their other teams are in the lower half of the groups. They may also have a problem next year in the DA because their top players may have other options with Beach and LA Premier added to the group.
 
Looking at their ECNL records only their U15 team is going to the championship playoffs and that team has slipped down to 4th place so just making the cut. Their other teams are in the lower half of the groups. They may also have a problem next year in the DA because their top players may have other options with Beach and LA Premier added to the group.

The commute between the South Bay and Camarillo, in either direction, is a pretty big barrier. Unless you are aware of specific '03 players, I would be surprised to see a material impact on the Eagles from the entry of Beach into the DA. I do agree that the talent pool is only so big, and having 13 DA clubs and 8 ECNL clubs in Socal will have some interesting consequences in terms of the level and balance of competition within both DA and ECNL.

There is a recurring myth that, with the creation of each new league, all of the talent will move, the balance of power will shift or, even more preposterous, all this new talent, previously unaccounted for and playing in third tier clubs/teams/leagues, will finally see the light and find their way to clubs/teams in the new league. Perhaps the US Soccer seal of approval this time will help finally make that a reality.

I expect it will not.
 
The commute between the South Bay and Camarillo, in either direction, is a pretty big barrier. Unless you are aware of specific '03 players, I would be surprised to see a material impact on the Eagles from the entry of Beach into the DA. I do agree that the talent pool is only so big, and having 13 DA clubs and 8 ECNL clubs in Socal will have some interesting consequences in terms of the level and balance of competition within both DA and ECNL.

There is a recurring myth that, with the creation of each new league, all of the talent will move, the balance of power will shift or, even more preposterous, all this new talent, previously unaccounted for and playing in third tier clubs/teams/leagues, will finally see the light and find their way to clubs/teams in the new league. Perhaps the US Soccer seal of approval this time will help finally make that a reality.

I expect it will not.


@Dos Equis As you clearly have been there and done that and seen this sort of a change happen, it is funny how the assumption always is that everyone wants the shiny new toy. I agree with you wholeheartedly that with every new change we have seen a little bit more dilution and a whole lot of turmoil. I doubt that any DA team next season will be as strong as the top ECNL teams this year. I am interested to see how it all unfolds.
 
@Dos Equis As you clearly have been there and done that and seen this sort of a change happen, it is funny how the assumption always is that everyone wants the shiny new toy. I agree with you wholeheartedly that with every new change we have seen a little bit more dilution and a whole lot of turmoil. I doubt that any DA team next season will be as strong as the top ECNL teams this year. I am interested to see how it all unfolds.
It seems...at least from reading these forums that many of the better girls are moving over to DA. Is that not correct? If it is correct...then is it not safe to assume that there will be some very strong DA teams?

I agree it will be VERY interesting to see how this all unfolds this year and in the following years.
 
@Dos Equis As you clearly have been there and done that and seen this sort of a change happen, it is funny how the assumption always is that everyone wants the shiny new toy. I agree with you wholeheartedly that with every new change we have seen a little bit more dilution and a whole lot of turmoil. I doubt that any DA team next season will be as strong as the top ECNL teams this year. I am interested to see how it all unfolds.
Agreed, I, like maybe many others, think it might be best to see how things go this coming year, then see what is best for our players. I also think the no high school rule is a big point to consider.
 
Agreed, I, like maybe many others, think it might be best to see how things go this coming year, then see what is best for our players. I also think the no high school rule is a big point to consider.
That's very wise decision and what I would have done, if I had a DD in 8th or 9th grade.

What sucks is parents don't know what the future holds. It's not a guarantee any player on a Girls DA team will play college soccer, just like not all ECNL players end up playing college soccer. If the DA player isn't recruited to by the college she wants to attend. Then she sacrificed skipping for HS soccer for nothing.
 
It seems...at least from reading these forums that many of the better girls are moving over to DA. Is that not correct? If it is correct...then is it not safe to assume that there will be some very strong DA teams?

I agree it will be VERY interesting to see how this all unfolds this year and in the following years.

We will not know who moved until August/September. Not to mention that on the mixed age group teams many of the top players from the lower age group may not make a team. Even if they do they may not play much due to substitution rules. I am one that believe that there are 30 elite players give or take per age group in all of SoCal. Adding more teams to spread those players around isn't going to concentrate the talent is will be the opposite. I would not be surprised if instead of having 3-6 elite players per team you are going to have 1-3. I just don't see this going off as cleanly as most believe it will. Split age groups is going to have a HUGE affect on the girls side I can guarantee that.

I am definitely going to watch a GDA game this year to see what I see.
 
We will not know who moved until August/September. Not to mention that on the mixed age group teams many of the top players from the lower age group may not make a team. Even if they do they may not play much due to substitution rules. I am one that believe that there are 30 elite players give or take per age group in all of SoCal. Adding more teams to spread those players around isn't going to concentrate the talent is will be the opposite. I would not be surprised if instead of having 3-6 elite players per team you are going to have 1-3. I just don't see this going off as cleanly as most believe it will. Split age groups is going to have a HUGE affect on the girls side I can guarantee that.

I am definitely going to watch a GDA game this year to see what I see.
You think that at some point GDA will move to single age groups for all teams? It would seem logical IF they want to make it more difficult for ECNL.
 
That's very wise decision and what I would have done, if I had a DD in 8th or 9th grade.

What sucks is parents don't know what the future holds. It's not a guarantee any player on a Girls DA team will play college soccer, just like not all ECNL players end up playing college soccer. If the DA player isn't recruited to by the college she wants to attend. Then she sacrificed skipping for HS soccer for nothing.
Thank you,
One more thing to think about is whos' decision it is or will be to go to DA and miss high school, the girls might be doing it to appease their parents or the parents might not be giving the player a choice. I haven't heard of that many girls wanting to miss high school soccer.
Not playing high school isn't even a consideration in my daughters mind.
 
You think that at some point GDA will move to single age groups for all teams? It would seem logical IF they want to make it more difficult for ECNL.

We will see what they do. I think that a single age group would get more players involved. I don't really think that participation is their goal. I seem to remember that they are trying to focus programming on the top .01%. That is a bunch of players tossed to the side after giving up high school soccer and other sports.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens. There are plenty of takers for the shiny new toy so we have plenty of guinea pigs for this experiment.
 
We will see what they do. I think that a single age group would get more players involved. I don't really think that participation is their goal. I seem to remember that they are trying to focus programming on the top .01%. That is a bunch of players tossed to the side after giving up high school soccer and other sports.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens. There are plenty of takers for the shiny new toy so we have plenty of guinea pigs for this experiment.
You are spot on @MaP. There are plenty of takers for the "shiny new toy." From what I am hearing just from parents in the SW ECNL conference Big 3 (Surf, Slammers and Blues) it's full steam ahead into the DA. Good, bad or indifferent it's happening and seems a couple of the teams are attracting talent that will make them even stronger then their current roster make up.

Much to be seen yet.
 
Thank you,
One more thing to think about is whos' decision it is or will be to go to DA and miss high school, the girls might be doing it to appease their parents or the parents might not be giving the player a choice. I haven't heard of that many girls wanting to miss high school soccer.
Not playing high school isn't even a consideration in my daughters mind.

My dd's opinion is exactly the opposite. Even though our HS is a top team, her and her friends know that the quality of soccer is not good and the chance of serious injury is greater. The general feeling is that quality of HS is going to be even weaker with DA. Many of the better girls are thinking about sitting out even if they don't make DA though I do know of a few ECNL girls not going to DA so they can play HS. The HS season is going to be wide open next year. Personally, I loved the HS experience for my dd but it is not about what I want. It is what she wants.
 
My dd's opinion is exactly the opposite. Even though our HS is a top team, her and her friends know that the quality of soccer is not good and the chance of serious injury is greater. The general feeling is that quality of HS is going to be even weaker with DA. Many of the better girls are thinking about sitting out even if they don't make DA though I do know of a few ECNL girls not going to DA so they can play HS. The HS season is going to be wide open next year. Personally, I loved the HS experience for my dd but it is not about what I want. It is what she wants.

Isn't HS soccer more about the social aspect and school spirit than the level of play anyway?
 
03's and 04's don't really have to worry about HS soccer yet b/c the 04's are in 7th/8th grade and some 03's are in 8th grade.
The 03's that are going to HS will only miss their Freshman year of soccer to see what the GDA is like. Missing Freshman year of HS soccer is not that big of a deal....
 
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