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Can someone please point me to the rules regarding college ID camps and DA? I know this was recently discussed, but I can’t find the thread. Thanks in advance.
 
Can someone please point me to the rules regarding college ID camps and DA? I know this was recently discussed, but I can’t find the thread. Thanks in advance.

This is the thread about the topic: http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/id-camps-and-da-players.16430/

College Camp Policy
https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

Academy players will be permitted to attend winter college camps provided the Academy Coach has approved attendance. The following guidelines are in place
for college camps:

a)The camp may be no longer than three days in length;
b)The player may only attend one camp per school per year;
c)The player may not attend a camp if it falls during the competitive season or is equal to 11 or less than one week prior to the start of the competitive DA season; and
d) College summer camps that fall outside of the DA season do not apply and players may attend such camps without needing to request a waiver

Basically just like B) says one camp per school per year. Yes you can attend multiple camps at different schools just not multiple ones at the same school same school year.
 
This is the thread about the topic: http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/id-camps-and-da-players.16430/

College Camp Policy
https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

Academy players will be permitted to attend winter college camps provided the Academy Coach has approved attendance. The following guidelines are in place
for college camps:

a)The camp may be no longer than three days in length;
b)The player may only attend one camp per school per year;
c)The player may not attend a camp if it falls during the competitive season or is equal to 11 or less than one week prior to the start of the competitive DA season; and
d) College summer camps that fall outside of the DA season do not apply and players may attend such camps without needing to request a waiver

Basically just like B) says one camp per school per year. Yes you can attend multiple camps at different schools just not multiple ones at the same school same school year.

What does "or is equal to 11 or less than one week" mean?
 
This is the thread about the topic: http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/id-camps-and-da-players.16430/

College Camp Policy
https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

Academy players will be permitted to attend winter college camps provided the Academy Coach has approved attendance. The following guidelines are in place
for college camps:

a)The camp may be no longer than three days in length;
b)The player may only attend one camp per school per year;
c)The player may not attend a camp if it falls during the competitive season or is equal to 11 or less than one week prior to the start of the competitive DA season; and
d) College summer camps that fall outside of the DA season do not apply and players may attend such camps without needing to request a waiver

Basically just like B) says one camp per school per year. Yes you can attend multiple camps at different schools just not multiple ones at the same school same school year.

Perfect. Thanks so much. What is considered the “competitive season”? Everything but the summer?
 
Perfect. Thanks so much. What is considered the “competitive season”? Everything but the summer?

My interpretation of that is any time league season is in play, there was a break from Dec-Jan for the boys at least and there was a bunch of ID camps going on during this time for example. For the girls I understand the timing is different and the thread talks about that somewhat. There is a spring break period

What does "or is equal to 11 or less than one week" mean?

Ha that's a character typo should read

" The player may not attend a camp if it falls during the competitive season or is equal to or less than one week prior to the start of the competitive DA season"
 
Is there any preference given to kids that have non-athletic money, but still make the team, and save the coach money in the long run. Along these lines, which money is used first, athletic or non-athletic?

From my experience the coach prefers players that are going to help immediately regardless of where the money comes from. Athletic money is applied first. Sometimes other money goes unused especially if the athlete gets a high percentage of athletic aid. My rule of thumb is if college is going to cost you annually what it cost you in club or less than that, then you got a good deal.
 
It wasn't very hard for us to find coaches willing to allow her to play multiple positions. I found that at the younger ages it is usually the parents that don't want their player at his/her less than optimum position. We focused and her skill training, learning how to use her body and her effort to the ball. We were lucky that our player was average sized up until about U13/14 so her coaches didn't pigeonhole her at any particular position.

I would make sure that the coach is aware that you appreciate your daughter moving around so that he/she is aware that you are okay with it.
why are the same 4 people giving you a 'dumb' rating? i appreciate the info and think its helpful. thanks
 
why are the same 4 people giving you a 'dumb' rating? i appreciate the info and think its helpful. thanks

It goes back a long way, some of it to the old forum. In a nutshell there are some serious haters out there. Good luck to you and your player.
 
NLI is finally here. She is signing tomorrow night at home! It was a shame she was excluded from her HS signing event. Last year's MVP and league champion but can't play this year because of DA. Every other girl on her DA team (different High Schools) was allowed to attend their HS event. Our but hurt Athletic Director decided to exclude her even though she is their only D1 athlete. Oh well.
 
NLI is finally here. She is signing tomorrow night at home! It was a shame she was excluded from her HS signing event. Last year's MVP and league champion but can't play this year because of DA. Every other girl on her DA team (different High Schools) was allowed to attend their HS event. Our but hurt Athletic Director decided to exclude her even though she is their only D1 athlete. Oh well.
Email the AD and mention Title IX and the fact that she is not getting the same opportunities as the athletes at other schools in the school system. CC the Principal and school district superintendent as well. Hell, you may as well CC the mayor, state representative, and governor as well. Can't hurt to try.

When DD attended NLI signing day at Petco Park with her school, there were female rowing, gymnastics and rugby athletes there representing their schools, and those are not high school sports.
 
Email the AD and mention Title IX and the fact that she is not getting the same opportunities as the athletes at other schools in the school system. CC the Principal and school district superintendent as well. Hell, you may as well CC the mayor, state representative, and governor as well. Can't hurt to try.

When DD attended NLI signing day at Petco Park with her school, there were female rowing, gymnastics and rugby athletes there representing their schools, and those are not high school sports.

Already emailed the AD and the Principal. Pointed out that they let DA players attend last year. AD told me that we chose our path and that he will only include athletes that are actively playing during their senior year. We will do a nice event out our house tomorrow night with her teammates and friends. School also has a new policy banning NLI girls from playing in the Powder Puff Football game. She told me last night that she is going to play and she is going to tell them that it does not apply to her since they wouldn't recognize her.
 
Already emailed the AD and the Principal. Pointed out that they let DA players attend last year. AD told me that we chose our path and that he will only include athletes that are actively playing during their senior year. We will do a nice event out our house tomorrow night with her teammates and friends. School also has a new policy banning NLI girls from playing in the Powder Puff Football game. She told me last night that she is going to play and she is going to tell them that it does not apply to her since they wouldn't recognize her.
That is BS. I still think you should elevate it to a level higher than the school. It is asshole DA's like this one that are responsible for discouraging a college scholarship for female athletes. Once again, this does not apply to football players since that sport does not have academies. Mention Title IX. Do you have any friends that are lawyers that can put it on letter head? I regret not pushing harder when we had issues with CIF. And the BS about "she made her choice" is just that, BS.
 
That is BS. I still think you should elevate it to a level higher than the school. It is asshole DA's like this one that are responsible for discouraging a college scholarship for female athletes. Once again, this does not apply to football players since that sport does not have academies. Mention Title IX. Do you have any friends that are lawyers that can put it on letter head? I regret not pushing harder when we had issues with CIF. And the BS about "she made her choice" is just that, BS.

I already expressed my displeasure with what they are doing. I hoped that they would change their minds but I am not going to force them to honor her. In my mind two wrongs don't make a right. It just was a dick move not to recognize her in front of her peers and my understanding was that the coach had nothing to do with the decision. It was all the AD.
 
@Simisoccerfan

Congrats to your player!! She is going to LOVE her coach. He is a straight shooter and is a great communicator and mentor. Your player's high school AD is a prick and will get what is coming to him. Being vindictive when it comes to minors brings tons of bad karma. Mark my words.

Once again congratulations to your player and I applaud you for staying above the fray. The AD will get his comeuppance...
 
I know this won't be a popular stance but why do you care about signing at her high school when she is not involved in high school sports? The signing at the high school is about recognizing high school athletes, if you aren't involved in high school sports then who cares about all of that. If I were in your situation I would have something special set up with her DA team and coach. That is what she is loving and most close to from all of your posts. If I had nothing but disdain for high school sports I would not be interested in taking my player to the high school for this special occasion. This isn't a comment about the AD - most high school AD's are jerks so this is nothing new
 
I respect your decision, but pointing out Title IX violations is not wrong.
It is only a Title IX violation if BOYS DA players are also not excluded. Football has nothing to do with it since they play high school so it's not equivalent. It's also not equivalent if the sport isn't offered at the school (such as gymnastics, rugby...).

While it does suck, it seems the AD seems to be making a statement that they want to honor student athletes that go the extra mile and play for their school. FWIW we know quite a few DA players (both boys and girls) who quit DA senior year so they could play for the high school and get the NLI fanfare.
 
It is only a Title IX violation if BOYS DA players are also not excluded. Football has nothing to do with it since they play high school so it's not equivalent. It's also not equivalent if the sport isn't offered at the school (such as gymnastics, rugby...).

While it does suck, it seems the AD seems to be making a statement that they want to honor student athletes that go the extra mile and play for their school. FWIW we know quite a few DA players (both boys and girls) who quit DA senior year so they could play for the high school and get the NLI fanfare.

Among other reasons.
 
It is only a Title IX violation if BOYS DA players are also not excluded. Football has nothing to do with it since they play high school so it's not equivalent. It's also not equivalent if the sport isn't offered at the school (such as gymnastics, rugby...).

While it does suck, it seems the AD seems to be making a statement that they want to honor student athletes that go the extra mile and play for their school. FWIW we know quite a few DA players (both boys and girls) who quit DA senior year so they could play for the high school and get the NLI fanfare.
And if she played high school soccer before her senior year?
 
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