Best cleats that don't separate from the turf

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It seams we go through cleats real fast, especially from practicing and playing on turf... The sole separation from the top lining with the dreaded gap full of black rubber pellets. Practicing 3-4 days a week and games on the weekend take the toll on the boots... We've gone through all Nike's - Tiempos, Vapors, Opus etc. Need to get a solid cleat that is stitched into the sole I believe. Any suggestions from mid to high range cleat that is fairly light and effective.
 
Ones with reinforcement in the toe box, the glued together ones not as good as the ones with stitching underneath.

Had good luck with the NIKE HYPERVENOM PHANTOMX 3 ACADEMY TF
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Also the adidas mundial team turf boots, not as stylist, kind of old school, bit on the heavier side but they're durable with a nice leather

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My beef with the Mundial’s (outside of the weight which you’ve stated) is the lack of ventilation. If you play in SoCal and end up on a Turf Field in the heat, those shoes are like furnaces.
 
It seams we go through cleats real fast, especially from practicing and playing on turf... The sole separation from the top lining with the dreaded gap full of black rubber pellets. Practicing 3-4 days a week and games on the weekend take the toll on the boots... We've gone through all Nike's - Tiempos, Vapors, Opus etc. Need to get a solid cleat that is stitched into the sole I believe. Any suggestions from mid to high range cleat that is fairly light and effective.
Personally I wear the Nike TiempoX Legend. Incredibly comfortable (I have flat feet) and have worn well. My daughter wears the Nike Magista ObraX Academy Fit. She trains on turf so being worn 4 days a week. And most games have been played on turf. Therefore up to 5 days a week being used. They show no signs of exterior tearing or separation after 6 months.
 
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My beef with the Mundial’s (outside of the weight which you’ve stated) is the lack of ventilation. If you play in SoCal and end up on a Turf Field in the heat, those shoes are like furnaces.
Side note. Copa's seem to be making a comeback with the younger players. My daughter has a pair for grass and a few of her teammates have them, but not turf. Just grass boots and good ol kangaroo leather, probably illegally obtained.:D
 
My players have had good luck with New Balance cleats. They are the only somewhat available cleat I know of that comes in wide widths.
 
Look for with AG (artificial grass) cleats. They are usually more reinforced than normal cleats and have a stud pattern that is less aggressive than FG (firm ground) making it safer for them to make quick cuts without getting stuck and twisting something. The turf shoes most kids wear for the artificial grass we play on now are not meant for that type of field but most still wear them see a lot of slipping and sliding in those. Another option Nike just came out with is MG (multi ground cleats) can be worn on both AG and FG fields. Adidas has also released versions of these in the past usually having rounded shorter studs. Tiempos and Copas are also an option as the studs are rounded and not so aggressive but regular FG tiempos seem to not last very long with extensive play on artificial grass.
 
Look for with AG (artificial grass) cleats. They are usually more reinforced than normal cleats and have a stud pattern that is less aggressive than FG (firm ground) making it safer for them to make quick cuts without getting stuck and twisting something. The turf shoes most kids wear for the artificial grass we play on now are not meant for that type of field but most still wear them see a lot of slipping and sliding in those. Another option Nike just came out with is MG (multi ground cleats) can be worn on both AG and FG fields. Adidas has also released versions of these in the past usually having rounded shorter studs. Tiempos and Copas are also an option as the studs are rounded and not so aggressive but regular FG tiempos seem to not last very long with extensive play on artificial grass.
so, are you saying that if you are using firm ground cleats you could possible be more at risk for injury if using those cleats on turf? My daughter only likes copa's (which for some reason I thought were MG....) but based on your response since most of her games and practices are on turf she should not be using those. She is also a creature of habit so getting her out of them might be difficult except the fact that they are falling apart
 
My daughter has been using the top of the line Nike Tiempo (FG and SG) since her senior year in HS and has never had a problem with them. When she was in college in the southeast her cleats got wet almost every day and she had no problems. When she came back to So Cal for college she was on arty turf daily and had no problems. She recently won in a drawing a pair of the newest top of the line Nike Hypervenoms which she really likes.

IMO the reason her cleats hold up so well is that she buys the top of the line and takes good care of them. She has always had at least two pair and lets the air and dry out between uses by rotating which pair she wears.
 
so, are you saying that if you are using firm ground cleats you could possible be more at risk for injury if using those cleats on turf? My daughter only likes copa's (which for some reason I thought were MG....) but based on your response since most of her games and practices are on turf she should not be using those. She is also a creature of habit so getting her out of them might be difficult except the fact that they are falling apart

There was a limited study (sorry don’t have a copy or link) done several years ago that found that the longer blade cleats, primarily Adidas, would get stuck in the artificial turf and not release. This could cause excess strain on the knee causing ACL and MCL injuries especially in females. Adidas went away from the long blade cleats shortly after the study was released. I don’t know how valid the study was but I did see a good number of off the ball knee injuries when those long blade cleats were popular.
 
There was a limited study (sorry don’t have a copy or link) done several years ago that found that the longer blade cleats, primarily Adidas, would get stuck in the artificial turf and not release. This could cause excess strain on the knee causing ACL and MCL injuries especially in females. Adidas went away from the long blade cleats shortly after the study was released. I don’t know how valid the study was but I did see a good number of off the ball knee injuries when those long blade cleats were popular.
I stopped wearing blades for that reason too. Went to AG's for several years, but they are not as common and quite expensive these days. Decided to go back to turf's and circular studs.
 
Sports Page in Fountain Valley. Large selections, but a bit crazy when you walk in there.
http://www.sportspagesoccerwarehouse.com/

We went there between tournament games years ago because our coach knew the owner. He gave my son a 25% discount on expensive Adidas cleats because he "liked his name". I was happy about that but then he let some kids who came in a little later have some stuff for free (I think he was sponsoring their club or team).

Their facebook page -- https://www.facebook.com/216417269978/photos/a.297455309978/10152405945709979/?type=1&theater
 
Thank you, you are all really helpful, any recommendations for fat feet (think Fred and Wilma Flintstone)..we typically have stayed with adidas because they are generally wider then NIKE.
 
We went there between tournament games years ago because our coach knew the owner. He gave my son a 25% discount on expensive Adidas cleats because he "liked his name". I was happy about that but then he let some kids who came in a little later have some stuff for free (I think he was sponsoring their club or team).

Their facebook page -- https://www.facebook.com/216417269978/photos/a.297455309978/10152405945709979/?type=1&theater
The owner Elias is (and I mean this in the most sincere way) a bit of a nut. Once he knows you he certainly will cut the cost of your bill down.
 
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