DA and ECNL

Bit of a topic shift- but with the 05 Slammers team that made it to Hawaii and just won Surf Cup pretty much owning So Cal and most others over the past 2 years- Have they considered playing up a year?
Or having some players play up? (Maybe they already have/do).
With Slammers going all in with ECNL- does this team lose a game over the next 12 months?
No they don't lose a game unless Heat can pull off another upset like they did in Vegas cup but Slammers have recently beat Heat in Regionals and Surf cup. I don't see any other competitive match for them in ECNL. Maybe they should play up
 
No they don't lose a game unless Heat can pull off another upset like they did in Vegas cup but Slammers have recently beat Heat in Regionals and Surf cup. I don't see any other competitive match for them in ECNL. Maybe they should play up
This data is from Youth Soccer Rankings. Far West Regional record is not listed there. Might be a few other things missing or incorrect. But damn impressive!
Since the start of the Fall SCDSL season last year:
34 wins
2 ties
1 loss
139 Goals Scored
15 Goals allowed
23 of their wins were by 3 goals or greater
In 2017, under their prior club name they played up a year at Vegas Cup and won the 2nd flight.

My daughter has a few friends on the team. I've never watched them play. What makes them so dominant? They don't let in many goals - is their defense/gk that strong? They score a lot of goals- is their attack that strong?
 
U15s lost today (2-0) vs Portugal in the U15 Concacaf tourney. 17 of the 18 on the roster are from DA. Only one ECNL. As long as we have this kind of bias, our national teams are in trouble. Not saying the girls aren't talented on the roster, but are we really getting the best? I'm not sure with this model.
 
U15s lost today (2-0) vs Portugal in the U15 Concacaf tourney. 17 of the 18 on the roster are from DA. Only one ECNL. As long as we have this kind of bias, our national teams are in trouble. Not saying the girls aren't talented on the roster, but are we really getting the best? I'm not sure with this model.
Egos.
 
I find it hard to 100% blame DA for losses. Aren't the people that are coaching the DA teams the same people that were coaching ECNL 18 months ago?
And if our current US Womens National Team (Senior team and U23/20) are struggling because the rest of the world has caught up and is playing a more technical game than we are- Isn't ECNL partially to blame for that? ECNL was the "best league" around for the past 8 years, right?
 
U15s lost today (2-0) vs Portugal in the U15 Concacaf tourney. 17 of the 18 on the roster are from DA. Only one ECNL. As long as we have this kind of bias, our national teams are in trouble. Not saying the girls aren't talented on the roster, but are we really getting the best? I'm not sure with this model.

The US team has many 2004's and 2005's while most teams are consistent mostly of 2003's. Also I heard they lost on two pks. Pretty difficult to draw any conclusions with just one game lost.
 
The US team has many 2004's and 2005's while most teams are consistent mostly of 2003's. Also I heard they lost on two pks. Pretty difficult to draw any conclusions with just one game lost.
Honestly, I'm not trying to make a big deal of the loss.., but it is a sympton of a larger problem which is selectivty based on what league you play in. This you cannot deny. I'm not blaming the league itself but I am blaming the folks running it and making decisions based on ego as Sheriff Joe mentions above.
 
U15s lost today (2-0) vs Portugal in the U15 Concacaf tourney. 17 of the 18 on the roster are from DA. Only one ECNL. As long as we have this kind of bias, our national teams are in trouble. Not saying the girls aren't talented on the roster, but are we really getting the best? I'm not sure with this model.
People how is this dumb? Look at the numbers... they're not right. It's biased. Again, I'm not bagging on the kids that are there, but the selection process is super flawed because of league bias.
 
I find it hard to 100% blame DA for losses. Aren't the people that are coaching the DA teams the same people that were coaching ECNL 18 months ago?
And if our current US Womens National Team (Senior team and U23/20) are struggling because the rest of the world has caught up and is playing a more technical game than we are- Isn't ECNL partially to blame for that? ECNL was the "best league" around for the past 8 years, right?


As @MakeAPlay has said time and time again, if our country is to be successful, you have to pick the best players and best coaches. Until we do that this we will continue to lag behind.
 
The US team has many 2004's and 2005's while most teams are consistent mostly of 2003's. Also I heard they lost on two pks. Pretty difficult to draw any conclusions with just one game lost.

The 04/05 players this year have ONE year GDA. No ECNL. Most of those players play up on 03 teams anyways. Girls are talented, but conclusions can be drawn on this fact alone.
 
People how is this dumb? Look at the numbers... they're not right. It's biased. Again, I'm not bagging on the kids that are there, but the selection process is super flawed because of league bias.

When you make statements backed up by facts that fly in the face of people’s ignorance it brings out the haters. Great post!
 
I find it hard to 100% blame DA for losses. Aren't the people that are coaching the DA teams the same people that were coaching ECNL 18 months ago?
And if our current US Womens National Team (Senior team and U23/20) are struggling because the rest of the world has caught up and is playing a more technical game than we are- Isn't ECNL partially to blame for that? ECNL was the "best league" around for the past 8 years, right?

US Soccer is to blame. The GDA is just an illustration and symptom of their lunacy.
 
So this incompetence by US Soccer for not taking more 03’s right? That’s your excuse for the loss, so they f’d up by not taking more 03’s, whose fault is that?
I “think” US Soccer cares most about the full senior team. So maybe by sacrificing a loss in a youth national team game, USSF feels that playing younger players gives us a better chance at remaining on top when these players are adults.

But probably not. They probably just took players they knew would be loyal to DA or that had a connection with USSF or were willing to give up time at the mall or going on a family vacation to play a silly tournament.
 
I “think” US Soccer cares most about the full senior team. So maybe by sacrificing a loss in a youth national team game, USSF feels that playing younger players gives us a better chance at remaining on top when these players are adults.

But probably not. They probably just took players they knew would be loyal to DA or that had a connection with USSF or were willing to give up time at the mall or going on a family vacation to play a silly tournament.

I think it’s silly that you make this into a DA vs ECNL thing. There are 32 teams in this tournament. Only one team will win it.
 
Dude it’s just one loss. Take a chill pill.

Just calling you out on being so quick to make an excuse. Your knee-jerk excuse actually put you in a “logical” hole because either what Dubs said is right or US Soccer is incompetent for not taking more 03’s.

If you would have omitted the “excuse” I would agree with you that one game doesn’t tell the whole story. In fact I watched most of the 1st half of the Jamaica game and they looked damn good! Crisp, clean passing, nice midfield play, and very creative in the final 3rd. They looked 1000x better than the U-20’s. But again, I only watched one half and it was against Jamaica.
 
Just calling you out on being so quick to make an excuse. Your knee-jerk excuse actually put you in a “logical” hole because either what Dubs said is right or US Soccer is incompetent for not taking more 03’s.

If you would have omitted the “excuse” I would agree with you that one game doesn’t tell the whole story. In fact I watched most of the 1st half of the Jamaica game and they looked damn good! Crisp, clean passing, nice midfield play, and very creative in the final 3rd. They looked 1000x better than the U-20’s. But again, I only watched one half and it was against Jamaica.

That was not an excuse, just sharing some facts that this is a very young team An excuse would have been saying something like they would have won if they picked the best 03’s. Or they lost because they picked players loyal to the DA. Or US Soccer cares more about the senior team. Or the selection process is flawed. If I had said any of those statements then I would have been offering excuses.
 
It's not about one loss and not about DA vs ECNL. This loss is just a manifestation of the mistakes that are being made. US Soccer seems to select individual "superstars" that are not necessarily creative play makers that can perform as a team under intense competition. Of course the team looked good against Jamaica, it wasn't a very good team so most teams can look good when playing a lesser quality team.

The team is very young but that is most likely because the older U15 team is going to the China tournament next week. It stills is indicative of US Soccer thinking certain players are the best no matter what age and repeatedly overlook other players to pull up youngers. Are there no other '03's that deserve an opportunity to prove their value to the system. There was one superstar in the Portugal game that couldn't seem to figure out how to get into the game and make a contribution.
 
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