Girls DA U13 in 2018-2019

Striker17 said:
Please keep an open mind because I am absolutely not trying to offend. This is the type of post that shows as a younger parent you really need to do some research as to what is important to you, what you are looking for, what your dd needs to be happy.
This is a grind. This is not for short term wins and losses. You will not see the fruition of this for 2-3 years period. By that time the recruitment clubs will have lost their recruited stars and we will see what they have actually developed.
If you are keen you can clearly see now which 04 clubs are recruitment with no substance.
You can see what DA hurt and makes you question “were they ever really that good”.
You can also see if you truly are observant what teams use a small core of girls to get a W but when their benches go in it goes south. Is that development ?
Some girls do ok sitting on the bench on a winning team.
Some girls would rather lose and play the majority of the time.
Some girls need swag and bells and whistles.
Some girls like the training .
Some girls need a particular coach.
Pats play a nice game of soccer. You should watch sometime.
Also my personal tidbit is you should not be looking at W and L Records. Look at what the clubs are offering the players. There is a huge disparity and LAPFC and Pats for example are light years ahead of others on offerings.
Examples:
Trainers
Fitness trainers
GPS TECH
mental strength training
Video breakdowns
Fees paid
Travel paid

Building a program takes time but they have solid solid coaches and foundation. In Choosing a DA we went to PATS last year to train. It was the hands down most technical tryout just my two cents.

Sorry for the long winded rant. It’s a hard paradigm to get used to. I can’t epxlain it actually very well because until you are in it it’s difficult to get across. At U-14 there are no standings. I am extremely competitive but there is a huge difference between what they are teaching now, expected to retain , expected to perform etc than ever before and we were at the best club.
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This is really good insight. I've wondered about this DA team. I know they have a solid coaching staff, but the results haven't been great. Good to hear that they are trying to teach the right style of play. I'd really like to hear more about their academy set up. Are they not winning because of athleticism/recruiting? (We've all see a team with a few track stars run over a team of soccer players. Especially at the younger ages). Are they doing lots of experimenting with players and formations?
Across all age groups, they have been in some close games (and a few not so close games). Did they give up a late goal? Early goal? Just an unlucky game?
 
BeepBeep Boop said:
Where does Beach D.A. practice? Long Beach or south bay?
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As Lastman stated, we practice at least 2 Days a week at El Camino College in Torrance. Most Monday’s we are at Game Ready Performance for Strength/Conditioning/Recovery and Wed at Redondo Union for Technical Training (held by BeastMode).
 
Kicker4Life said:
As Lastman stated, we practice at least 2 Days a week at El Camino College in Torrance. Most Monday’s we are at Game Ready Performance for Strength/Conditioning/Recovery and Wed at Redondo Union for Technical Training (held by BeastMode).
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For those who aren’t aware of what or who Beast Mode is please review social media. Prepare to drool.
This is a perfect example of parity in DA training.
Beach’s programming is over the top
 
BeepBeep Boop said:
Where does Beach D.A. practice? Long Beach or south bay?
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I highly recommend taking your DD and going to a few games and most of all practices of a few of the Clubs you are interested in. It is a small investment of time if you are thinking about DA for your DD next year.
 
timbuck said:
This is really good insight. I've wondered about this DA team. I know they have a solid coaching staff, but the results haven't been great. Good to hear that they are trying to teach the right style of play. I'd really like to hear more about their academy set up. Are they not winning because of athleticism/recruiting? (We've all see a team with a few track stars run over a team of soccer players. Especially at the younger ages). Are they doing lots of experimenting with players and formations?
Across all age groups, they have been in some close games (and a few not so close games). Did they give up a late goal? Early goal? Just an unlucky game?
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Ok I am taking a deep breath. So many people in this forum look at results. I love results. It has been very hard to take a step back, give up the journey to my kid and let the process unfold.
What you aren’t seeing is what we see every week. A curriculum being taught and then applied, many times to detriment of a “score”. For the record this isn’t an excuse either because I love Legends and the others. My point is often times we will find ourselves saying “uh why is Suzy at left d she’s never there”, etc. if they are trying to teach a star striker something they may in fact pull her back a bit.
Playing time requirements also hugely impact coach decisions and transfer rules.
LAPFC has actual curriculum sheets and follow through my friends tell me. Based on what a player needs to learn it’s highly plausible things get shifted up. When you have played forward and are suddenly winger it leads to some issues.
From my own experience I can only stress that parents at the actual DA you are interested in doing to may help you out a lot. 05 parents ask those hard questions.
As far as Pats, two of my DD friends are there. They love their team and Coach. The big picture is emphasized. I think they can speak for themselves.
The only reason why I interjected is because I think that Records are important but at this exact juncture they simply are not accurate except I would bet surf and legends remain the best. These players are not developed by their club yet, the program is less than six months old so truly we can’t expect a read out. What we can do though is be very sure to make sure you as an 05 parent have all the information you need to make an informed decision that works for your family.
 
Striker17 said:
Ok I am taking a deep breath. So many people in this forum look at results. I love results. It has been very hard to take a step back, give up the journey to my kid and let the process unfold.
What you aren’t seeing is what we see every week. A curriculum being taught and then applied, many times to detriment of a “score”. For the record this isn’t an excuse either because I love Legends and the others. My point is often times we will find ourselves saying “uh why is Suzy at left d she’s never there”, etc. if they are trying to teach a star striker something they may in fact pull her back a bit.
Playing time requirements also hugely impact coach decisions and transfer rules.
LAPFC has actual curriculum sheets and follow through my friends tell me. Based on what a player needs to learn it’s highly plausible things get shifted up. When you have played forward and are suddenly winger it leads to some issues.
From my own experience I can only stress that parents at the actual DA you are interested in doing to may help you out a lot. 05 parents ask those hard questions.
As far as Pats, two of my DD friends are there. They love their team and Coach. The big picture is emphasized. I think they can speak for themselves.
The only reason why I interjected is because I think that Records are important but at this exact juncture they simply are not accurate except I would bet surf and legends remain the best. These players are not developed by their club yet, the program is less than six months old so truly we can’t expect a read out. What we can do though is be very sure to make sure you as an 05 parent have all the information you need to make an informed decision that works for your family.
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I know you're of the "too much too soon" perspective, but I have to correct you. We're discussing D.A. For next year's u13, so 2006s.
 
I am not of the too much too soon perspective. I am common sense. Ten year old DA is hands down the worst idea I have ever heard of in My entire life and I am praying that it is not going to be the 04 model but rather some type of hybrid due to developing bodies. Let’s wait to see the press release. I have faith in sanity prevailing and a part of the picture not being conveyed
 
Striker17 said:
I am not of the too much too soon perspective. I am common sense. Ten year DA is hands down the worst idea I have ever heard of in My entire life and I am praying that it is not going to be the 04 model but rather some type of hybrid due to developing bodies
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Not 10, 11 turning 12. Not trying to argue, thanks for your perspective.
 
My dd is 12 and she’s an 04 yeah not trying to argue but if you want to have some fun take a look at younger 04 vs older 04 and let me know how the minutes breakdown goes.
Again another subtle point that parents should consider
 
BeepBeep Boop said:
I know you're of the "too much too soon" perspective, but I have to correct you. We're discussing D.A. For next year's u13, so 2006s.
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I am of the “too much too soon” perspective. Asking a 6th grader to give up other sports, and time with friends and family to play soccer is stupid. This seems parent and money driven, not about what is best for the player.
 
Striker17 said:
I am not of the too much too soon perspective. I am common sense. Ten year old DA is hands down the worst idea I have ever heard of in My entire life and I am praying that it is not going to be the 04 model but rather some type of hybrid due to developing bodies. Let’s wait to see the press release. I have faith in sanity prevailing and a part of the picture not being conveyed
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I'm confusing you with chargerfan. You two comment in the same threads
 
chargerfan said:
I am of the “too much too soon” perspective. Asking a 6th grader to give up other sports, and time with friends and family to play soccer is stupid. This seems parent and money driven, not about what is best for the player.
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They don’t have to at the Middle school level as long as the schedules don’t conflict and the Coach approves it.
 
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